CR500 wheel model interchange..

MrDude_1 · Post by **MrDude_1** » May 21st, 2008, 7:39 am

OK im still confused. Ive searched on here, and other boards for the last month.
I have a 96 CR500.

SOME people say the 500s axle size changed in 91.
SOME people say it changed in 96.
Neither one says what size any of them are, with a number.
i honestly dont know. my bike is a 25 hour drive from here and i cant pick it back up until the weekend..

according to what SOME people say CRF wheels cross over as a direct fit to 91-01 (or 96-01) CR500s. is this true?

my primary reason for asking, is someone has some CRF supermoto wheels for sale (eagle rims, Talon hubs) and i would like to know they will fit my axles.
if i need different bearings for them to fit, or make custom spacers, thats fine, but i need to know if they will fit.

any information someone could share would be great.
remember, this will come up on a search for someone in the future, so if you have a list of models that cross wheels over, listing them here would be helpful to them, even if it doesnt help me perfectly.

thanks,
-MrDude_1

Ported&Polished · Post by **Ported&Polished** » May 21st, 2008, 7:45 am

Rear wheels from 87 to 01 will all interchange. Front wheels have different rotors after 91. I know my 02 cr250 rear wheel axle is much bigger than a cr500 rear axle.

lewisclan · Post by **lewisclan** » May 21st, 2008, 7:46 am

MrDude_1 wrote:OK im still confused. Ive searched on here, and other boards for the last month.
I have a 96 CR500.

SOME people say the 500s axle size changed in 91.
SOME people say it changed in 96.
Neither one says what size any of them are, with a number.
i honestly dont know. my bike is a 25 hour drive from here and i cant pick it back up until the weekend..

according to what SOME people say CRF wheels cross over as a direct fit to 91-01 (or 96-01) CR500s. is this true?

my primary reason for asking, is someone has some CRF supermoto wheels for sale (eagle rims, Talon hubs) and i would like to know they will fit my axles.
if i need different bearings for them to fit, or make custom spacers, thats fine, but i need to know if they will fit.

any information someone could share would be great.
remember, this will come up on a search for someone in the future, so if you have a list of models that cross wheels over, listing them here would be helpful to them, even if it doesnt help me perfectly.

thanks,
-MrDude_1

I think the Rear 89-01 is the same on a cr500 I think the cr250 rear 96-99 same also maybe earler to. the fronts they mixed up a little.
but the crf has a bigger axle I have heard you can change out the bearings but dont know of anyone doing it yet . I am sure the guys here will answer your question .

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » May 21st, 2008, 8:36 am

'87-'89 ran 2 bearings instead on 3, but same axle size. the brake rotor was 6 bolt for '87-'89 and changed to 4 bolt until '01 on the 500s and '99 on the 250s. the hubs changed from black to bare in like '94 or '93, I can't remember. the 250s got a larger rotor in '97-'99 but the bolt pattern for the rotor is the same. basically a 500 can use a 500 rear wheel from '87-'01 and a 250 wheel from '87-'99

lewisclan · Post by **lewisclan** » May 21st, 2008, 8:56 am

what do ya know about the bearing sizes can he get a differnt bearing in a crf wheel to run a smaller cr500 axle

Slow old Fart · Post by **Slow old Fart** » May 21st, 2008, 6:26 pm

The front wheel will work fine from the CRF with the right axle spacer combo the back will work once you machine a few spacers. In 2000 Honda went to a bigger rear axle.

it is no problem.

lewisclan · Post by **lewisclan** » May 21st, 2008, 6:35 pm

Slow old Fart wrote:The front wheel will work fine from the CRF with the right axle spacer combo the back will work once you machine a few spacers. In 2000 Honda went to a bigger rear axle.

it is no problem.

ok hold on a min. he is asking about a crf wheel fiting a cr500 late modle so you are saying that the late modle crf axle is the same size at the late modle cr500 axle in the rear?
isent the axle dim. completly differnt? I know it is on the late cr250 stuff as I have cr500s from 89 to 01 and 97-99 gen 1 and 02 gen 3 the gen 3 stuff wont work on the anything but gen 3 ???????

Slow old Fart · Post by **Slow old Fart** » May 21st, 2008, 6:48 pm

lewisclan wrote:
Slow old Fart wrote:The front wheel will work fine from the CRF with the right axle spacer combo the back will work once you machine a few spacers. In 2000 Honda went to a bigger rear axle.

it is no problem.
ok hold on a min. he is asking about a crf wheel fiting a cr500 late modle so you are saying that the late modle crf axle is the same size at the late modle cr500 axle in the rear?
isent the axle dim. completly differnt? I know it is on the late cr250 stuff as I have cr500s from 89 to 01 and 97-99 gen 1 and 02 gen 3 the gen 3 stuff wont work on the anything but gen 3 ???????

I will go out right know in the garage and look. In 95 Honda went to a bigger axle on the 500. I have swapwed alot of CR 500 and CRF wheels but I may be mistaken let me go look.

lewisclan · Post by **lewisclan** » May 21st, 2008, 6:56 pm

its all good I just don want to give a new member the wrong info .
thanks for checking
Jay

Slow old Fart · Post by **Slow old Fart** » May 21st, 2008, 7:00 pm

Yaa it is the same. The front axle on the newer Hondas is the same size as the CR 500 rear axle.

Slow old Fart · Post by **Slow old Fart** » May 21st, 2008, 7:04 pm

lewisclan wrote:its all good I just don want to give a new member the wrong info .
thanks for checking
Jay

You should have seen my best swap to date, I put a dirt track 19' front wheel on my 97 CR 500 and ran a 125 rear tire on it. it fixed the push but was kinda a pig but overall a improvment by far for sand riding.

Slow old Fart · Post by **Slow old Fart** » May 21st, 2008, 7:26 pm

lewisclan wrote:its all good I just don want to give a new member the wrong info .
thanks for checking
Jay

You machine spacers that reduce the bearings down on the CRF so the CR axle will fit, Done it no problem

lewisclan · Post by **lewisclan** » May 21st, 2008, 7:45 pm

THAT DONT MAKE NO SINCE TO ME WHAT A SPACER IS, IS NOT THE SAME AS ABEARING .
YOUR saying cut a spacer down to the axle size or cut a spacer up to the size to a bigger axle . I know I am lame but WTF are you saying ? put it into axle size & bearing size in the hub mm.
Because You got me fricken lost

Slow old Fart · Post by **Slow old Fart** » May 21st, 2008, 8:54 pm

lewisclan wrote:THAT DONT MAKE NO SINCE TO ME WHAT A SPACER IS, IS NOT THE SAME AS ABEARING .
YOUR saying cut a spacer down to the axle size or cut a spacer up to the size to a bigger axle . I know I am lame but WTF are you saying ? put it into axle size & bearing size in the hub mm.
Because You got me fricken lost

My guy machined new spacers that slide inside the CRF bearings on the rear wheel and reduced it down to the cr axle.

lewisclan · Post by **lewisclan** » May 21st, 2008, 9:04 pm

ok Alright do you happen to have the axle size and th ID bearing size or are yo telling the new menber that it can be done if you have a machineist that is willing to cut some stuff if he is willi9ng to take a chance ...,.. all of which is good to me ?

Slow old Fart · Post by **Slow old Fart** » May 21st, 2008, 9:06 pm

lewisclan wrote:ok Alright do you happen to have the axle size and th ID bearing size or are yo telling the new menber that it can be done if you have a machineist that is willing to cut some stuff if he is willi9ng to take a chance ...,.. all of which is good to me ?

You ask alot of ?'s for a primate.

xr680r · Post by **xr680r** » May 25th, 2008, 6:11 pm

I am glad I ran into this thread...I am trying to buy wheels for a 95' CR500 and needed to know if 91 wheels would work. Acording to what I read here I am a go for any wheels in the back but, the rotor size is different in the front but, the wheels is the same? If I buy the 91 wheels they will work on my 95 if I change the front rotor? Thanks....

Ported&Polished · Post by **Ported&Polished** » May 25th, 2008, 8:02 pm

You got it right.

Slow old Fart · Post by **Slow old Fart** » May 25th, 2008, 8:19 pm

xr680r wrote:I am glad I ran into this thread...I am trying to buy wheels for a 95' CR500 and needed to know if 91 wheels would work. Acording to what I read here I am a go for any wheels in the back but, the rotor size is different in the front but, the wheels is the same? If I buy the 91 wheels they will work on my 95 if I change the front rotor? Thanks....

The 95 and newer Cr5 have a larger front axle,you can machine a few axle spacers and the 91 will work. I run a 19" dirt track front rim of a earlier style Cr and made it work with little trouble on the later model setups. I am 99% sure rotor is the same size but has a different bolt pattern.

xr680r · Post by **xr680r** » May 26th, 2008, 9:56 am

What about changing the bearings to fit the smaller axle? I bought the wheel and now I need to make it fit........

If I went with a spacer do you still have the size or do I have to start from scratch? :shark:

Mr. Lewis If I make these wheels fit I won't need to barrow yours. What year is the other set of forks I bought from you? Do I have the paper work for the 85'?

Slow old Fart · Post by **Slow old Fart** » May 26th, 2008, 11:27 am

I machined my whole set up,it was not more than 25 $. I have never tried the bearing route. it is pretty easy to do.

i am not scared of running odd wheel combo's they are easy to make work.

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