That would be the same generation that slaps a fart can on their clapped out Honda Civic, along with the Type R and NOS (pronounced Nawwwwsss) decals and then proceeds to talk shit about how fast their car is.MICK wrote: I wish I was as happy about todays current crop of MX bikes as todays kids are. But I'm not a product of the MTV generation. Loud noises and expensive toys don't cloud my judgement.
And call you old and ignorant if you don't believe themExnav wrote:That would be the same generation that slaps a fart can on their clapped out Honda Civic, along with the Type R and NOS (pronounced Nawwwwsss) decals and then proceeds to talk shit about how fast their car is.
That's the only thing you've said in this thread that makes sense. I'm glad we can agree on this. You obviously have more streetbike experience than you do dirt. Remember when Honda debut my RC51? It was the most expensive bike offered by Japan. Said to be a production "race" bike. It was given a displacement advantage in AMA pro Racing against the inline 750s. But realizing what a mistake that would have been was then required to compete head to head in the SBK class, for good reason. And it was still heavier than the current offerings of I-4s, and produced less power on top of that...It was supposed to make all kinds of broad, linear power that was easy to use and get traction with. But you don't believe all that bullshit now do you. Ridden many 1098s lately? What do you think of the current twin displacement advantage (1200cc). For another 200cc you can buy an 1198S for $20,000+ and it still won't be as fast as your run of the mill GSX-R1000. You apparently can sift through the propaganda with streetbikes and seperate the hype and bullshit from reality...but you haven't yet learned to do the same with motocross bikes.M.F.D.B. wrote:I love V-twin torque, and the sound is AWESOME but they simply cant hang with the high horse 4 bangers.
AlisoBob wrote:Saw 2 that wouldnt start. 1 during the race, 1 sitting pre race in the gates.... DNS
Can you believe this!!! DID NOT START. They had to come up with new abbreviations for fourstrokes. Nodoby had ever previously heard of a DNS...what's that? Must be a typo, a rider can't just not fucking start the race! I tell you I've never owned a bike that wouldn't start. But I'm of the opinion that a bike that doesn't start reliably isn't worth a shit! Or a car, truck etc...Wait a minute guys, this bike is really super fast (kick-kickety-kick-kick) just...if it would start (kick-kickety-kick-kick) 
Jesus if Jeff Emig has ever said something that made sense I'll eat a dirty sock. I'll tell you the FI wasn't helping this poor guy start his '09 CRF450 at monster last weekened when he was pulling it through the pits with a truck 
Stewart and Chad will be tied in 4 races if they finish 1-2 from now on. Should be an excellent series to watch, Chad has stepped it up and the Yamaha doesn't appear to be working as well for Bubba as his Kawi was.MICK wrote:James Stewart may very well thank his no-starting peice of shit 450 for costing him this years championship. If Reed continues to place on the podium for the rest of the season, Bubba can't even make up the ground if he wins every race. Thanks Yamaha
Its not my "opinion" :M.F.D.B. wrote:Say what you want about Jap 4 bangers, ill run circles around a V-twin all day on mine. I love V-twin torque, and the sound is AWESOME but they simply cant hang with the high horse 4 bangers. By the way, an MV Agusta is no where near 6 figgas, and they handle and haul ass just as good as they look. If you havnt ridden a high end Euro dont hate on what you are ignorant of please...
Seems like a lot of people in this thread are ok with spreading "rumors and opinions" of which they have little to ZERO first hand knowlegde of...
Reed went down in the first turn of the main.... started near dead last.MICK wrote:
Stewart and Chad will be tied in 4 races if they finish 1-2 from now on. Should be an excellent series to watch, Chad has stepped it up and the Yamaha doesn't appear to be working as well for Bubba as his Kawi was.
I have a hard time following this guy myselfxtremeslide wrote:
Well, I ran into a snag this weekend. Got to the track around 10:30 Saturday. This was the second weekend I've had the bike out. Bike was running just fine until about 2:00. I had stopped to take a break for about 15 to 20 minutes and I went to go kick it over and put in a few more laps and the kickstarter was locked up, or at least it felt like it. If I let my foot rest on it, eventually it would release and go down, but once I let it back up, it locked. I'm a pretty heavy guy and I couldn't get the SOB to kick over at all, so I know I wasn't just being a pansy. I tried run starting it, but the wheel would just lock up.
Called the shop, explained this to them, and the tech said to bring it in. I asked him if he had heard of this before on the new bikes and he said yes, and that it was the "something decompressor something." I know nothing about 4-stroke motors (yet) and I'm a bit afraid to go digging into this thing being its only 3 weeks old (not to mention the wires running everywhere).
I also asked the tech if this was possibly a recall and if I would be charged for the fix. He said no (to the recall) and "probably not" (get charged) given that that's the problem. I will bring the bike in Monday and update y'all as I know more.
To say the least I'm not very happy about the whole situation. The bike has 3 hours total on it and I have changed oil twice, and the tranny oil once already. I'm far from pro, so the bike hasn't seen any ragging at all. I haven't wrecked it but once, and all it did was fall on it's side. We'll see what happens. I know that dirt bikes don't come with warranties, but I'll say this, Honda better back their product if they wanna keep me buying them. (I have a lot of other honda stuff, generator, power washer, etc...)
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You wouldn't find anything...that's my point. These problems never existed until now. DNS? What the fuck is that?!?!?JBaze wrote:I would like to know, before the 4 strokes got so popular, how many guys lost the championship because the bike didn't start, because I never remember seeing the results and seeing a DNS. Once. Ever.
I've ridden two of them so far. They're fucking G-A-R-B-A-G-E!!! honda is so god damn stupidmike hunt wrote:Check this out www.dirtrider.net go to 4 stroke discussion and look under 09 CRF 450 problem already.
And another guy who needs MFDB's number. This is what the bike at Monster Mountain was doing...same exact fucking thing!!xtremeslide wrote:"I had stopped to take a break for about 15 to 20 minutes and I went to go kick it over and put in a few more laps and the kickstarter was locked up, or at least it felt like it. I tried run starting it, but the wheel would just lock up.
...To say the least I'm not very happy about the whole situation. The bike has 3 hours total on it and I have changed oil twice, and the tranny oil once already. I'm far from pro, so the bike hasn't seen any ragging at all."
M.F.D.B. wrote:I have a 450 thats been riddin hard as HELL since 06 when it was new and you know how many times ive rebuilt this "$1,000,000" top end? NOT ONCE!! Havnt even needed to adjust the FRIGGIN VALVES not ONCE.
It's gotta be something in the water??
