Sprocket changes... need to ajust links in chain?

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Sprocket changes... need to ajust links in chain?

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ey there, I have a 1990 CR500 and since i bought it i have had it on 17s with a 15 ot 16 tooth up front and a 39 in the rear...

when i bought it it came with a full set of knobbies on stock rims and i think for the fall im going to set it up for mostly dirt riding... if i really want to do street riding a lot i can always swap back (its street legal) or ride my brothers CBR600...

so my question is: the stock rims have a 49 tooth rear and a 14 front with them how should I gear. 15/39 is too tall for riding in the woods i have done it on my 17s. if i go to 14/49 will i have enough chain? I could always go 14/39 and switch sprockets on the rear rims i assume that wouldnt be too big a change.

what is the margin that you can change the number of teeth without having to remove links from the chain cause i dont feel like doing that...
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I WOULD NOT ride woods on a 14/39. hell I had trouble with a 14/45
go back to 14/49 and buy a 2nd chain.
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dannygraves wrote:I WOULD NOT ride woods on a 14/39. hell I had trouble with a 14/45
go back to 14/49 and buy a 2nd chain.
any reccomendations on a bargain on decent chain for occasional woods riding (i ride it on the street most of the time and will continue to in the spring)

im almost done with college (christmas time) and have about 40 bucks to my name at the moment so i was trying to avoid getting another new chain i just bought one for the bike a month ago
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Do like I do and buy a couple of masterlinks then use old chain as filler :D
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Brit, you are suck a N@#$%^!
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dont think ive posted pics in here before either


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Hey Ive done it for years and it works :D
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ctatv wrote:dont think ive posted pics in here before either


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britincali wrote:Hey Ive done it for years and it works :D
your still a nigger! :lol: :lol:
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dannygraves wrote:
britincali wrote:Hey Ive done it for years and it works :D
your still a nigger! :lol: :lol:
eventually id like to get a second chain but like i said, i think i said it here i posted this question on a bunch of different sites, Im not done with school till december and im pretty much flat broke. glad i bought oil in bulk and have enough money to put gas in it at the moment so dropping 80 bones on a new chain isnt gonna happen. I also dont have old chain lying around... any idea how many master links i should buy and string together? is that unsafe?
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How many times do I have to say it it's "nigga mangina" when we talk about Brit Danny AKA "nigyver"
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teemtrubble wrote:How many times do I have to say it it's "nigga mangina" when we talk about Brit Danny AKA "nigyver"
hahaha

i gotta come around here more, ive been so concentrated on my new car lately ive just been riding bike as is, but today when i got home from a ride i pulled into the fields we own and went ripping through a few trails (yes with my 16/39 setup on 17s and pirelli tires) and although i lost traction when i snapped the throttle and in a 2 acre field i couldnt get above second I remembered how much fun a 2stroke is in the woods and off road... I havent had the knobbies on my bike since i bought it 3 years ago.

we have an RT180 trail bike (like an IT175) that is real mild and its fun to ride in the woods but nothing in power comparrison... I used to have a quadzilla thats why when i went supermoto i went 500
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ctatv wrote:
dannygraves wrote:
britincali wrote:Hey Ive done it for years and it works :D
your still a nigger! :lol: :lol:
eventually id like to get a second chain but like i said, i think i said it here i posted this question on a bunch of different sites, Im not done with school till december and im pretty much flat broke. glad i bought oil in bulk and have enough money to put gas in it at the moment so dropping 80 bones on a new chain isnt gonna happen. I also dont have old chain lying around... any idea how many master links i should buy and string together? is that unsafe?
you aren't going to be able to string masterlinks togetheryou need the inner links too. What kinda of chain do you have? if its a DID gold x-ring, I have 2 strings of 6 links that would match I could throw in the mail for you :wink:
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dannygraves wrote:
ctatv wrote:
dannygraves wrote: your still a nigger! :lol: :lol:
eventually id like to get a second chain but like i said, i think i said it here i posted this question on a bunch of different sites, Im not done with school till december and im pretty much flat broke. glad i bought oil in bulk and have enough money to put gas in it at the moment so dropping 80 bones on a new chain isnt gonna happen. I also dont have old chain lying around... any idea how many master links i should buy and string together? is that unsafe?
you aren't going to be able to string masterlinks togetheryou need the inner links too. What kinda of chain do you have? if its a DID gold x-ring, I have 2 strings of 6 links that would match I could throw in the mail for you :wink:
you would be my savior... Ill have to check cause I didnt put the chain on I had it in with a bent shift shaft (last chain snapped but thankfully didnt crack the case) so while he was straitening my shift shaft for me (to save me money of needing a new one) he also put a new chain on for me... would it say on the chain anything about it or will i have to ask him?
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teemtrubble wrote:How many times do I have to say it it's "nigga mangina" when we talk about Brit Danny AKA "nigyver"
na, Brit is a nigerachi... that one was coined by Andy yes the 2nd half is refering to liberachi! :lol:
Nigyver is one my friend Jimmy came up with in middle school while trying to descripe a riding mower I built using a mower and a schwin beach cruiser! :lol:
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ctatv wrote:
dannygraves wrote:
ctatv wrote: eventually id like to get a second chain but like i said, i think i said it here i posted this question on a bunch of different sites, Im not done with school till december and im pretty much flat broke. glad i bought oil in bulk and have enough money to put gas in it at the moment so dropping 80 bones on a new chain isnt gonna happen. I also dont have old chain lying around... any idea how many master links i should buy and string together? is that unsafe?
you aren't going to be able to string masterlinks togetheryou need the inner links too. What kinda of chain do you have? if its a DID gold x-ring, I have 2 strings of 6 links that would match I could throw in the mail for you :wink:
you would be my savior... Ill have to check cause I didnt put the chain on I had it in with a bent shift shaft (last chain snapped but thankfully didnt crack the case) so while he was straitening my shift shaft for me (to save me money of needing a new one) he also put a new chain on for me... would it say on the chain anything about it or will i have to ask him?
if its a DID, it will say on the side of the links. to check if its an x-ring, look for o-rings, if the see extra lines in them, its and x-ring. if it looks like a regular o-ring, then thats what it is. if there isn't either, its a standard chain. since they are different widths to accomidate the O or X ring it does make a difference.
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If its a roller chain (no o-rings) let me know, and I'll look for some. I run it on my kart and probably have some used laying around. If I do, I'll have a chunk thats between 2 and 3 feet that you can have.
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there you go mang! if its an x-ring or std, your good :wink:
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I could be in luck... I got the rims out, unfortunatly I dont seem to see the 14 tooth sprocket but it might be laying around somewhere in my tool chest i didnt have time to check all the drawers, but it seems my rims included a 49+ which is on the rim and a 44... so if I went from 39 to 44 & 16 to 14 in the front that wouldnt be as drastic a change so i might be able to see if it fits...

heres the pics of the rims/tires i have all the numbers in about half an hour going to go write them down, some of them can be seen in the pics others not...

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that was the front rim, below here is the rear rim

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Post by TYSTYX »

14/44 will still be too tall for woods riding. If you have a 14/49 I would go with that if I were you. :wink:
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TYSTYX wrote:14/44 will still be too tall for woods riding. If you have a 14/49 I would go with that if I were you. :wink:
really think so? I was getting it through the ocasional trail on 15/39 over the last year or two...

BTW, i think its an O-ring chain...

on another side note, has anybody seen a grease fitting like that on a hub before? its only on my front rim...
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that zerk fitting was added by a previous owner.
Andy runs 14/45 on the trails, so 14/44 will be tough but doable.
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went to my mechanic and picked up my old chain, bought a new master link. looks like im in business. only thing i cant seem to locate is my 14 front tooth sprocket. how tall u think 16/50 will be?
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16/50= .32
14/44= .318

14/49= .285

this should give you an idea.
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