whats it worth?

aloha450x · Post by **aloha450x** » July 18th, 2008, 12:54 pm

http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/mcy/759334825.html

i called the guy and he said he bought it a few years back. rode it for a bit then gave it to his day. then he pulled the motor to drop in a quad. i asked him when was the top end done and he said he has never touched anything. i figure i needs a complete rebuild. what should i offer the guy? i asked him what he was looking to get and he said he had an offer for 600 but to call him monday to see if it sells. i think he made that up to see if i would offer more. of course i didnt. after i didnt make an offer he kept telling me to call monday because the "guy" might flake out. haha

britincali · Post by **britincali** » July 18th, 2008, 12:58 pm

That looks like shit

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » July 18th, 2008, 1:01 pm

budget in is possibility of a complete rebuild (probably $300-$500)

To me, I would never pay a penny over $1000 for a perfect running and completely rebuilt 500 motor, so I will never pay more than $500 for one with a questionable history.
If you tore into it and did every bearing and seal and a topend you're looking at $400 in parts and bore, not to mentiong if it needs a crank or clutch, or the jug is at 2.0.

I'd tell him that if the guy flakes (there is no guy

) you'll give him $300 and be willing to go up to maybe $500.

aloha450x · Post by **aloha450x** » July 18th, 2008, 1:02 pm

i know right, but a nice tear down. powdercoat the cases new seals bearings crank cylinder and piston and all new hardware and good as new. i figure the motor as is worth about 2 hundy. thoughts

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » July 18th, 2008, 1:05 pm

are the intake and exhaust plugged? if not, I would assume a case splitting would be in order and some new main bearings... still, I'd offer like $250 or $300. The cool thing about a beat up motor is if you get it cheap and completely rebuild it you can have some really good peice of mind when its done and probably still pay less that what the really clean motors go for on ebay.
Both of my motors got the full treatment from me, all bearings and seals right off the bat.

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » July 18th, 2008, 1:06 pm

ya, 2 hundy sound like a decent offer. especially if the dude doesn't really know much about it. You can even be honest and tell him since its soo dirty and without a known history, you feel as though you are buying a rebuildable core, not a running motor.

aloha450x · Post by **aloha450x** » July 18th, 2008, 2:48 pm

I gonna go check it out today. look in exhaust. pull reed cage and peek in there. what else without yanking the jug?

Post by **AlisoBob** » July 18th, 2008, 3:54 pm

If his girlfriends hot, get a hand job too.

aloha450x · Post by **aloha450x** » July 18th, 2008, 4:00 pm

handjob would be alright but in gonna push for a suckoff

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » July 18th, 2008, 5:35 pm

look out for cracks in the bottom of the case, a plugged weep hole, stripped drain plug, JB anywhere. pull the plug and look at it. click through the gears while turning the c/s sprocket back and forth. feel if the kicker ratchets back into place well. If he'll let you, drain the oil and look at it and pull the clutch cover and check for grooves in the clutch backet. Did I foget anything?
oh, pull the stator cover and check for seal leaks, or a rusty shitty flywheel, also inspect the sprocket, it will give you a good idea of how the previous owner maintained the bike while it was running.

the more you look at and the more problems you find (even if they are a small and very easy fix) can help you get his price down.

aloha450x · Post by **aloha450x** » July 18th, 2008, 5:49 pm

thanks homie. ill take some pics and post my findings in a bit. headed down there in an hour

aloha450x · Post by **aloha450x** » July 18th, 2008, 7:50 pm

well checked it out. first off it had a ton of dirt on it. not the kind ya wipe off. the barn kind. oil with dirt. haha the cases look good. no jb weld anywhere. case saver mount holes look ok. piston looks real good from the exhaust side. clutch cover looks good and no gouges. the kicker is screwed. wobbly as hell. it shfts nice and smooth. has oem reed cage and jp carb. they look ok. all in all it looks really nice. but hell who really knows whats going on inside. had some odd hwd here and there. the case vent hose is about half the size it should be. the shifter is a little worn. dont know if its the shifter or the shift rod. the guy really dosent know anything. he said he has the pipe and i asked him what pipe it was and he said uhhhhh dont know. and he said he would look for it. he also said he had the rads and cdi somewhere. i told him i would call him monday to see if "the other guy" bought it. so basicly im looking at a decent motor with no known history shifts ok with half a inch of grime and what appears ok cases. so i have no idea what to offer him.

fastkart · Post by **fastkart** » July 18th, 2008, 7:56 pm

Was the exhaust plugged with a rag or was it left open? I'm assuming the reeds/carb were installed... if not, was the intake plugged?

I'd be offering $250-$300, if he was hesitant, maybe up to $400

aloha450x · Post by **aloha450x** » July 18th, 2008, 8:06 pm

reeds amd carb were installed but the exhaust wasnt. look rather clean in there and the piston was top dead, but who knows. if i do get it ill do a complete rebuild on it anyway. but just looking for a ballpart to offer. 300 seems to be the average

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » July 19th, 2008, 8:38 am

ya, I'd give him $300 no problem.

aloha450x · Post by **aloha450x** » July 19th, 2008, 5:59 pm

i sent him an email with my offer. to be honest if he takes it great but if not i really dont care. with the wedding coming up that is money i cant afford to spend anyway. haha

aloha450x · Post by **aloha450x** » July 22nd, 2008, 5:57 pm

guy said he would take 400. should i grab it?

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » July 22nd, 2008, 6:27 pm

I would

nmdesertrider · Post by **nmdesertrider** » July 22nd, 2008, 8:19 pm

not a bad deal. buy it!

aloha450x · Post by **aloha450x** » July 22nd, 2008, 9:03 pm

gonna grabit tomorrow. hopw he dosent change his mind. between now and tomorrow

aloha450x · Post by **aloha450x** » July 23rd, 2008, 1:33 pm

bastard flaked out on selling it to me. i hate bullshitters. sorry danny.

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » July 23rd, 2008, 1:35 pm

DAMN! what, did he want more money?

aloha450x · Post by **aloha450x** » July 23rd, 2008, 1:54 pm

fucking homo. he said i could get it today. i had to call him twice and he gave me some bs excuse. what ever happened to peoples word? if you agree on something follow threw. i told a guy i would sell him the bottom end of my crf450x for 300. before he sent the check i found out they went for double that on ebay. and guess what i sold it to him for 300. like i agreed. two months later i saw it on ebay and went for close to 700. my word is worth more than 400 bucks.

Skidmark · Post by **Skidmark** » July 24th, 2008, 9:26 pm

Hey bruddah....let me know if you buy it.

The quad guy who bought Patrics (mine now) bike and promptly broke his leg into several pieces want's that motor for a Quad Zilla build. Some people never learn!

mahalo,
"Skiddy"
:shark:

aloha450x · Post by **aloha450x** » July 25th, 2008, 9:49 am

hit him up on craigslist. or better yet call him. his number is on there. i would be intrested to see if he sold it like he had said. send him an email and offer him 600 and see what he says. if he agrees i will call him up and have a word with him.

http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/mcy/759334825.html

BannedCR500Riders.com

whats it worth?

whats it worth?