V Force III VS II comparison result.

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » December 17th, 2009, 6:30 pm

i talked to mototassanari recently and they said there has only been one version of vforce3 ever made for the cr500. not sure what the ordeal about the insert was but ill find out soon, ill have a set today or tomorow and have a close look.

blackz34 · Post by **blackz34** » December 18th, 2009, 1:40 pm

Thank you ! Post the results when you know!

blackz34 · Post by **blackz34** » December 18th, 2009, 1:41 pm

Oups, double post

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » December 19th, 2009, 7:26 pm

got it today and everthing looks good. reeds sit flat with no gaps, appears to be a qaulity unit. i cant say about the insert because i havent cut the ears yet but i will in the next day or so and ill post back how everything lines up.

powermizer · Post by **powermizer** » December 25th, 2009, 1:34 pm

Yea I spent a bit of time trying to match the air straightner to intake. I realy wonder if the air straightner is more of a restriction than a helper, the hole in the straightner is quite small compared to stock reed cage inlet.

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » December 25th, 2009, 5:07 pm

powermizer wrote:Yea I spent a bit of time trying to match the air straightner to intake. I realy wonder if the air straightner is more of a restriction than a helper, the hole in the straightner is quite small compared to stock reed cage inlet.

not sure why but mines the opposite. the plastic insert hole is bigger than the rubber intake hole.

Ported&Polished · Post by **Ported&Polished** » December 25th, 2009, 5:40 pm

Well then it sounds like they fixed the pos, I stand by my post that soon us cr500 guys will be the only group keeping reed companies in business.

powermizer · Post by **powermizer** » December 25th, 2009, 11:14 pm

Ok, does this mean they came up with a new straightner, or what. 100hp what year is your engine.

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » December 26th, 2009, 9:03 am

i talked to mototassinari directly and they said theres only been one version ever made. my engine is '00 year. what do you meen "air straightener" ? you meen the insert piece that pops out of the reed cage ? like i said before, on mine the reed insert hole is bigger than the hole in the rubber manifold, so i had to grind alittle bit from the rubber manifold to make everything match up.

Ported&Polished · Post by **Ported&Polished** » December 26th, 2009, 9:32 am

Which is the total opposite of what others had to grind, so it's clear that they did change the fawking thing! I hate lyers and I hate people that don't know the business they work for, but still give information over the phone that clearly comes out of the anus.

powermizer · Post by **powermizer** » December 26th, 2009, 9:36 am

Yea its the insert. I am confused why yours would be different, mine is an 01. When I did mine back in august I assembled it off the engine and when I looked through the carb side of intake you could see the insert was smaller than intake rubber housing. I had to be real carefull when moding the insert not to loose the existing contour, thats when I thought it might be best just to leave it out, I am sure you would loose some bottom end but I would think the top end would increase. I guess I will have to try it out.

powermizer · Post by **powermizer** » December 26th, 2009, 9:41 am

Ported&Polished wrote:Which is the total opposite of what others had to grind, so it's clear that they did change the fawking thing! I hate lyers and I hate people that don't know the business they work for, but still give information over the phone that clearly comes out of the anus.

I agree. (Pictures would be great) anybody with a new VF3

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » December 26th, 2009, 11:50 am

i can only tell you what they told me. i specifically asked them if there was a old/new version and they said no there has only been one version. i dont know why there is discrepencies. you can see how the insert is clearly bigger than the manifold hole which is fine because its easy to grind the rubber bigger.

fastkart · Post by **fastkart** » December 26th, 2009, 11:54 am

I want to say that my insert for the VF3 was larger than the boot as well, but I don't even use the insert. I'll compare sizes when I get home just for fun.

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » December 26th, 2009, 11:59 am

i re-read the first guys post and his insert was smaller than the boot, which is opposite of mine. i would geuss there probly was 2 versions and the person on the phone gave me bunk info..... just my guess.

powermizer · Post by **powermizer** » December 26th, 2009, 12:23 pm

100hp honda wrote:i can only tell you what they told me. i specifically asked them if there was a old/new version and they said no there has only been one version. i dont know why there is discrepencies. you can see how the insert is clearly bigger than the manifold hole which is fine because its easy to grind the rubber bigger.

100hp I cant realy tell what I am looking at, can you please take a picture of the insert seperate and the reed cage. Thanks

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » December 26th, 2009, 12:45 pm

green=manifold
red=insert

powermizer · Post by **powermizer** » December 26th, 2009, 12:50 pm

so do you have the reed assy appart, and am I looking from the reed side.

fastkart · Post by **fastkart** » December 26th, 2009, 12:58 pm

Yes, that is the motor side of the manifold, with the insert on it, as it would sit in the motor. The reed assy doesn't need to be apart for the insert. It simply drops into the VF3 unit.

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » December 26th, 2009, 12:58 pm

yes its the reed side

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » December 26th, 2009, 1:03 pm

powermizer what is it you dont understand ? how to cut the boot or you got a different problem ?

powermizer · Post by **powermizer** » December 26th, 2009, 1:04 pm

Wow that kills me, I bet they know nothing about a design change LOL. Pisses me off, not like there cheep. Thanks 100hp

powermizer · Post by **powermizer** » December 26th, 2009, 1:08 pm

100hp honda wrote:powermizer what is it you dont understand ? how to cut the boot or you got a different problem ?

Yea my insert was definatly was smaller than the intake boot.

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » December 26th, 2009, 1:11 pm

call and see if you can get the newer insert, its worth a shot. mine has the numbers 120A stamped into it, that may be a part number

powermizer · Post by **powermizer** » December 26th, 2009, 1:13 pm

100hp honda wrote:call and see if you can get the newer insert, its worth a shot. mine has the numbers 120A stamped into it, that may be a part number

Sweet, Thanks, I will try

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