thestuz wrote:Exnav wrote:Let's see....Obama has alienated his chief foreign policy person, sending her off to tend to menial tasks, but yet he is now being complimented for his rationale that America needs to have a civil discourse with those that intend on threatening all non-islamic humanity. I get it, I truly do. We should build a campfire and sit around and sing "Kum Bay Ya" with those that want to eradicate everyone that does not share in their religious beliefs.
did you know that jews live in iran? in peace? and are welcome to stay?
did you know that ob administration have just brokered full cooperation with ussr/china on a non nuklear iran policy? do you call that MENIAL TASKS?
did you know that pakistan is a ISLAMIC COUNTRY that has NUKES and has never hurt or threatened any one. AND IS EVEN FIGHTING THE TALIBAN WITH YOU GUYS? so why fear a muslim country when they fight for you?
and that OBs open up fighting against militant extremists in afganistan,pakistan and sudan?
are you aware, ob has restored other countries respect for america and the way it runs its foreign policies now?
ob has always advocated dialogue "before" military action. do you have a problem with that?
well you can sit around a camp fire and sing "Kum Bay Ya" with muslims all you want. you might even get to like them once you loosen up and drop your paranoia of them . they are not all ak wielding psychos like you are led to believe through cnn.
1. Did you know that Islamic law mandates second class status for both Jews and Christians, these laws are still in effect and enforced today. They are also required to pay a non -Muslim tax (jizya), along with a long list of other discriminatory items such as requirements for dressing certain ways, walking only on the side of the street, not being able to build higher or as high as muslim buildings. If these, and/or many others, are violated they can be sold into slavery or killed at the discretion of the muslim leader.
2. You are correct they did broker this deal, however Russia just stated that they are against any sort of sanctions or blockades to Iran. Russia still trades weapons, missile technology, and nuclear hardware to Iran. If they are so "with us" why are they doing this. You really can’t be so naive to think that because they said they wouldn’t support Iran, they really won’t? Lets see, we are dealing with countries that have a history of blatantly lying to us and conspiring with countries that would do us harm, but because Obama is president they won’t anymore? Your reasoning is shocking! I am a school principal and just so you know, when a kid is really nice to a bully, tells him he doesn’t want any trouble, and would like to be friends, he is viewed by that bully as weak and gets his ass kicked anyway. I work in a tough school so I see it daily.
You apparently don't believe in "Trust but verify". You seem to blindly trust because Obama is your savior.
3. Pakistan and India have been waring with each other since they gained independence form Britain. Guess what over……Muslim intolerance of the Hindu religion. So, uh….your wrong again. Are you seeing a pattern here regarding your so called peaceful Muslims? The country is very poor and gets paid billions to support the US, so they reluctantly go along for the money, doing only what they must to get their cash. Don’t kid yourself into believing that they love the US, or any other non muslim nation. Please research before you post ridiculousness. I will give Obama credit for trying to hold them more accountable for earning their money.
4. You say that Obama has restored other countries faith in America. How exactly do you know that? How do you measure that? They or someone else says it so it must be true? One thing is sure no country would ever actually lie. Has it occurred to you that maybe they go along because it encourages Obama to be passive while they build up their military and political strength behind the scene. Personally, I think you are a fucking idiot if you choose to believe those who have a consistent history of lying and fucking over America, but you are probably smarter than me.
5. I actually don’t have a problem with dialog before military action as long as he isn’t stupid or a pussy. Based on what he says, I fear both. I also believe that he is harboring anti-Semite sentiments so he is less that motivated to save Israel. I can give examples, as you always request, but I would be writing forever and I would like to go to bed eventually.
6. I know you will probably lie about this, but how many muslims have you befriended? How much actual experience do you have with the religion and culture. Finally, how much actual history and education do you have regarding them. I don’t mean specifically selected biased information. I mean pure history with no bias involved. You mentioned that I should articulate my views….I just did, all backed up by facts and evidence. I could list references but I refuse to take the time and you wouldn’t read them anyway. I have no illusions that I can change your mind or that you will even actually let the facts lead you instead of your ideology. You obviously hear something somewhere, or read something somewhere and if it fits with your ideology or it seem plausible, you accept it and spout it as fact. I’ve suggested in previous posts that you try investigating all views with an open mind and let the facts and common sense lead you. For example you believe the muslims are wonderful and peaceful people who have simply been persecuted that’s why they fight back. You can believe that if you want, and you obviously really, really want it to be true. I’m sorry the facts just don’t bare that out. Can you find someone’s writing or comments that say it….Yep, but that doesn’t make it fact when you actually research non-biased factual information.
The last thing I will say is that I also have a counseling background , my masters program was in counseling and I spent several years as a counselor. In that time I have spent a large amount of time assessing clients. Which includes IQ and aptitude assessments. I have come to not put much stock in them at all. I don’t think they are an accurate indication of anything except possibly your ability to learn. My score on the Wisk and the Stanford Binet are In the high 130s which puts me aprox one standard deviation above the norm. On the Raven Advanced Matrices I score in the Mid to high 90s. Which scores me even higher. None of it means shit, and makes me no smarter than anyone else, but since you brought it up…..what’s yours? You mentioned that anyone with an IQ of over 70 can listen to someone’s opinion without resorting to 5th grade insults……… agreed, I just don’t want to!
all religious ideology is self slavery in my view.and its a fools game.
