Carburator adjustments 85 engine PJ21A

Algava · Post by **Algava** » September 20th, 2007, 6:00 pm

Problems:
excessive fuel consumption
black greasy stuff from coming out the exaust
with the following settings:
60 pilot
3rd clip(middle )needle
168 main

New settings(in the video)
52 pilot
2 clip from the top
168 main

Check out the video and listen to the engine
Click here to watch CR500-carb-adjustments

In the video I test the engine at 0,1/2 and 1 turn airscrew.
It sounds to me that I need a bigger pilot(I'll try 55 next).
I just want to cure the issues above.

Any feedback?

Al

Post by **AlisoBob** » September 20th, 2007, 10:32 pm

It dosent really matter how it runs in your driveway.... your at about 100' above sealevel, and the closest ride spots ( Jawbone, K/M, Santa Clairita, Hungry Valley are all 3000' +.

If it runs best with the air screw " 0" turns out... I'de say you just about got it... unless your going back to Mexico, or Glamis.

Algava · Post by **Algava** » September 20th, 2007, 10:52 pm

I will put a 55 pilot in there.
I have also been reading up and will try a 1370N needle to solve the spooge and gas guzzling problem.
The only pain is removing the carb from this AF's.
Al

iggys-amsoil · Post by **iggys-amsoil** » September 21st, 2007, 12:20 am

You can't pull the slide out and turn the carb enough to take the bowl off?

My carb hits the frame doing that but the boots are flexable enough to get by.

Also if I get a 1/4 turn or less she dies.

Also try a 1470.

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » September 21st, 2007, 7:33 am

I can get to anything on my carb in the af, its just a little extra work. Order up a dgn (r1472n), thats what I'm running on my '86
I'm 58 pilot, DGN 3rd clip and 180 main @ 2500 ft on my '86 motor with a newer style head gasket, porting work, vforce, pwk, FMF pipe. runs like a champ and I get a little tad of spooge, which keeps me happy knowing I'm running a little rich.

ou812 · Post by **ou812** » September 21st, 2007, 10:26 am

What are you using for oil and ratio, you sure smoke a lot .

with a PJ carb I run a 48 and it is spot on, with a pwk I run a 45 and it is spot on, 50 ft above sea level.

Also take it for a rip before you try setting it.

britincali · Post by **britincali** » September 21st, 2007, 11:04 am

It sounded better to me at 1 turn out, if you lowered the idle .

Algava · Post by **Algava** » September 21st, 2007, 1:22 pm

I use Castrol 927 40:1.
One turn out it was surging...what's the matter with you Britincali?
BTW thanks for the kicker it works great.

britincali · Post by **britincali** » September 21st, 2007, 1:23 pm

Algava wrote:I use Castrol 927 40:1.
One turn out it was surging...what's the matter with you Britincali?
BTW thanks for the kicker it works great.

It was surging cos you have the idle (choke) screw to far out.

No probs on the kicker, ellett gave me a free one so I passed on the favor

Post by **AlisoBob** » September 21st, 2007, 2:17 pm

Algava wrote:I use Castrol 927 40:1.
One turn out it was surging...what's the matter with you Britincali?
BTW thanks for the kicker it works great.

927 is Maxima

Algava · Post by **Algava** » September 21st, 2007, 2:20 pm

AlisoBob wrote:
Algava wrote:I use Castrol 927 40:1.
One turn out it was surging...what's the matter with you Britincali?
BTW thanks for the kicker it works great.
927 is Maxima

I ment Castor 927

Algava · Post by **Algava** » September 21st, 2007, 3:09 pm

Brit, my hat's off to you.

1 turn air screw and two turns back of the choke and she sounds great.
I now have +8 turns of the choke knob and +1 turn of the air screw.
I have a video but putfile.com is not cooperating right this moment,maybe later.
Maybe if I turn the choke screw 2 more turns back I can give the air screw another turn.I think the manual says at sea level air screw 2.5 turns and choke screw 5 turns,is it right?

britincali · Post by **britincali** » September 21st, 2007, 3:10 pm

Algava wrote:.I think the manual says at sea level air screw 2.5 turns and choke screw 5 turns,is it right?

Dont know I have never read a manual......

Post by **AlisoBob** » September 21st, 2007, 3:19 pm

Algava wrote:
AlisoBob wrote:
Algava wrote:I use Castrol 927 40:1.
One turn out it was surging...what's the matter with you Britincali?
BTW thanks for the kicker it works great.
927 is Maxima
I ment Castor 927

927 is Maxima

britincali · Post by **britincali** » September 21st, 2007, 3:24 pm

AlisoBob wrote:
Algava wrote:
AlisoBob wrote: 927 is Maxima
I ment Castor 927
927 is Maxima

I know what he means

I call it maxima or castor 927 all the time

Algava · Post by **Algava** » September 21st, 2007, 3:29 pm

Hey Bob,
http://cyclesalvage.com/
same monkey red eyes owner.

I have 2 bottles of Maxima stuff,one is called Formula K2 2 cycle formula but I don't use it anymore,the other one is Castor 927,that's the stuff I use.I was told it's better.

Post by **AlisoBob** » September 21st, 2007, 3:48 pm

Super M is the hot ticket!

britincali · Post by **britincali** » September 21st, 2007, 3:51 pm

AlisoBob wrote:Super M is the hot ticket!

Super M ain't a castor based oil tho.

Algava · Post by **Algava** » September 21st, 2007, 3:55 pm

britincali wrote:
AlisoBob wrote:Super M is the hot ticket!

Super M ain't a castor based oil tho.

Sorry, I've got to smell the castor oil.

britincali · Post by **britincali** » September 21st, 2007, 3:56 pm

Algava wrote:
britincali wrote:
AlisoBob wrote:Super M is the hot ticket!

Super M ain't a castor based oil tho.
Sorry, I've got to smell the castor oil.

Algava · Post by **Algava** » September 21st, 2007, 4:08 pm

OC Honda just called me and don't have a needle for my 85 PJ.
I wander if the newer carb needle will fit.
I was looking for a R1370N or R1372N .
I will post in the classified maybe.....
Al

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » September 21st, 2007, 5:32 pm

call sudco, and convert the pn to the keihin #s (the 1370, I think is CGL or CGM, can't remember) as a DGN is 1472, I still think DGN is your best bet, I have a 1369 and my bike didn't like it.
A/S is supposed to be 1 1/2

Al, you comin out to Dumont? If so, we all can help you out.

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » September 21st, 2007, 5:35 pm

actually, let me check my needle colection, I might have a 1372, I know I have a 1369, DGJ, DGL and n82g (kx500)
If you come out to dumont I'll give you what ever I have that will work.

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Carburator adjustments 85 engine PJ21A

Carburator adjustments 85 engine PJ21A