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We are being Legislationed to Death........

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The following is a letter sent to Honda dealers from American Honda's senior vice president, Ray Blank...

Dear Honda Dealer:

On August 14, 2008, Congress enacted the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act of 2008 (CPSIA or Act). The Act was primarily in reaction to the recent influx of lead-tainted toys that resulted in numerous recalls and significant public outcry for more stringent government standards.

The CPSIA requires manufacturers of “Children’s Products,” defined as those products designed or intended primarily for children 12 years of age or younger, to meet increasingly stringent lead paint and lead content standards and to certify, based on third party testing, that the products meet the Act’s requirements. Products that fail to comply with the prescribed lead limits are considered a “banned hazardous substance” and cannot be sold or offered for sale. Violation of the prescribed limits (initial limits detailed below) can result in severe civil and criminal penalties.

Ban of lead in paint over 600ppm (parts per million)

Honda’s paint contains little or no lead and easily complies with even the most stringent requirement.

Ban of lead in substrate material over 600ppm

Honda is still in process of completing tests on all of the materials used in our small ATV’s and motorcycles; however, some alloy materials commonly used to manufacture motor vehicles may inherently contain levels of lead that are (or ultimately will be) above the current, or future more aggressive, limits set forth in the Act.

Honda and other members of the Motorcycle Industry Council and Specialty Vehicle Institute of America, which face the same issues as Honda, are actively working to exempt the alloy parts for small motorcycles and ATVs from the terms of the Act. The lead embedded in the alloys used in these products is not transferred through typical use of these products. Our shared belief is that Congress never intended the lead content provisions of the Act, which originally were aimed at toys that can be mouthed by children, to be applicable to small ATVs and motorcycles.

Even more concerning is that the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC), the agency charged with enforcing the Act, recently ruled that Congress intended the lead content regulations to be retroactive. This means that, regardless of its date of manufacture or the fact that it complied with all applicable laws and regulations at the date of manufacture, any children’s product manufactured with even a single component part containing lead in excess of the limits will no longer be legal for sale as of February 10, 2009. The economic impact of the CPSC’s ruling will be substantial for both dealers and manufacturers in an already weakened economy.

What all of this means to you is that – without Congressional or CPSC action -- you will not be able to sell new or used TRX 90, CRF 50F, CRF 70F, or CRF 80F models after February 10, 2009, stranding your investment in your new and used inventory. In fact, under the terms of the Act you cannot even display these models on your showroom floor, distribute brochures, or advertise them on your website.

**REVIEW IMMEDIATELY**

As Honda and others continue to work towards a satisfactory resolution to this dilemma, we urge you to support an industry effort by contacting your Congressional delegation and Senators and urging them to ensure that small motorcycles and ATVs are exempted from the lead-content provisions of the Act. Copies of letters already sent by the MIC and SVIA to various members of Congress are attached for your reference.

We ask for your patience and understanding as we work through this unfortunate process together. You may continue to sell these models lawfully and with all existing Honda retail support through February 9th, 2009. We will advise you if the industry is able to obtain an exemption from the lead content regulation. In the interim, we will keep you posted on developments and business actions necessary from February 10th forward to comply with this Act. With best regards, American Honda Motor Co., Inc.



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they can ban that, but pay you to put a cfl light in your kids room to save energy, if it breaks it'll expose the kid to more lead than a common lifetime.
And when theyre burnt out they're to be recycled, into what, what could you possibly make from lead that wont contain lead. FIberglass is the most common product of recycled bulbs, and its everywhere in every form!
If its not recycled it goes into a landfill and into the watersuppy anyways!
But its cheap right, for the moment, and their is no restitution to be paid later becasue it can never be prooven as intent, becasuse the bulb was meant to be recycled so its that guys problem, and if you broke it it wasnt meant for that either. BASTARDS!


Same dudes passed the law to let you blow radiation at your milk, sure it stops some bacteria, the same shit that makes yogurt, and keeps your innerds active. Drink that shit for years, then have un-irriaded milk and you'll have the worst gut ache ever and the shits, doc will tell you you're lactose intolerant. You are, you quit making the shit to digest it, same as you would have if you stopped having milk after the tit, except now you're also filling your body with active ions, not so active that they are beyond the limit set by the same goveronment, but they do build up to that limit in just months. If it doesnt say its pasturized, its using another term of NUKED. Oh yeah, and the reason you drink the milk, for the calcium and protien, its added after its nuked with either fish bones or other synthetics. That "active" yogurt just hasnt been killed with radiation.
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Bob, That effects the re-sale of toys and other items for children as well. I caught a piece on a local news broadcast regarding re-sale stores that engage in re-selling and how they will cease operation due to the cost of testing each and every item before re-sale to the public.

I guess unless we quit electing big government nanny state types the only one to blame is ourselves. We can start by confronting and demanding that local and national news-sources start reporting news and not giving opinions dictated by station owners. Journalism is dead in the US. This is how TheBama and other lefty greeny wackos are getting elected (Al Franken for one). For example take the stimulus, all the talking heads are telling us how wonderful it is and how the bad republicans held party lines and every one of them voted no for this great record spending bill. They are not reporting that around only 12% of every dollar is all that can be considered truly stimulating to the economy and of that 12% much of it won't even hit the ground til 2011 and later. If you do some research you will find it filled with pork for things like: carbon capturing research, global warming research, (both of those issues have negative impact as far as the economy), remodeling government offices, new grass and landscaping for the capital grounds, Amtrak, arts grants, Smithsonian for puchasing museum pieces, birth control for foreign countries, plug in stations for electric cars and much more.

To be fair though, and to the benefit of the us here in our community they did earmark $25,000,000.00 for rehabilitating OFF-ROAD VEHICLE routes. Of which we should be flattered because I feel that was thrown in because they know we are mainly right of center and if they give us some token consideration we may be swayed, we are a force to be reckoned with afterall.

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Lead never hurt anyone..... Look at Brit.....

He ate lead paint chips for breakfast, like a bowl of Wheaties.... every morning.

( Maybe this isnt the best example.... :? )
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Dint eat it but we did have 100% lead pipes in our hotel (my dad eventually ripped them all out and replaced with copper)
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britincali wrote:Dint eat it but we did have 100% lead pipes in our hotel (my dad eventually ripped them all out and replaced with copper)
:shock: how freaken old was that place?!
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They started construction in 1860 finished it around 1870.


When we got it in 1988 all the plumbing was lead and the wiring was either cotton coated or lead encased, half the light switches were still the original wooden ones :shock: It seems they REALLY liked lead back in the day lol.
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