Clutch plates and springs?

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Clutch plates and springs?

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What brand/model clutch plates and springs are best? I've always used stock plates with the exception of using Vesrah (sp?) once; didn't seem to make any difference. Is there a brand/model that performs better than OEM?
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I have always had the best luck with Barrnet clutch kit with steel plates, never had a faliure in 20+ years.
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Barnett carbon is by far the best clutch.

I run one in my nitrous bike its had countless full throttle, full juice second gear launches and it still bites like new.

The stocker and EBC units would always start slipping after 2 or 3 runs, the barnett has yet to slip on me.
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Thanks; do either of you have a line on a place that sells them for a reasonable price?
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I see them on e-bay for reasonable buy it now prices, also might try Motosport.com or bikebandit. Should be able to pick one up for under a hundred, a whole kit.
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Heres where I got mine....

http://lukesracing.com/Merchant2/mercha ... BRcltchHDB


That link is for the earlier 6 plate clutch.
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Heres the thread that made me try the barnett...


http://www.bannedcr500riders.com/board/ ... ett+clutch
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jbird_710 wrote:Thanks; do either of you have a line on a place that sells them for a reasonable price?
mike at Teem Trubble or MFDB at Thumpertalk.com :D
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anybody weighed aluminum plates vs steels ?
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I haven't, but for the performance and cost of the steel plates vs. the alum. I feel the steel plates is the way to go even if they are an ounce or two heavier.
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im probly the last person to still like stock plates :lol:
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How much life do you get out of them? In my experience with a new bike I was replacing the stock clutch before I would ever need a top end. I don't use the clutch that much to begin with but I just never had alot of luck with the stocker.
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The aluminum are nice, but shed too much junk into the oil.

Hard anodized ones would be a good compromise.
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JBaze wrote:How much life do you get out of them? In my experience with a new bike I was replacing the stock clutch before I would ever need a top end. I don't use the clutch that much to begin with but I just never had alot of luck with the stocker.
i dont put as much time on my bike as alot of guys so i really havent had to mess with the clutch much. i been thinking of trying steel plates for the hell of it to see how they work
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I like the way the steel plates feel. More positive engagment. (Too me)
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I'm using Hinson's fiber and akadized plates. Clutch feel and engagement I beleive are as per norm for a rebuilt clutch. Which is to say it operates like a brand new machine again...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Barnett still uses steel as a base meterial for their fiber plates. Thanks, but no thanks...

Hinson's fibers use an aluminum base plate. And the akadized drive plates wear have been excellent so far. I won't trully be sold on them until they've lasted as long as the OEM stuff...so they have a long way to go yet.
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Mick, thats the same setup DeWayne runs...
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dannygraves wrote:Mick, thats the same setup DeWayne runs...
Ya I am having to replace mine as well...debating on the steel plates too.
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hoofarted wrote:
dannygraves wrote:Mick, thats the same setup DeWayne runs...
Ya I am having to replace mine as well...debating on the steel plates too.

I have never personally ever had a problem with steel plates. Play riding or racing no faliures. Aluminum plates on the other hand, I have actually had them chunk out and contaminate the transmission, not to mention the quick contamination of the tranny oil. I still think for the cost of a Barnett, you can't go wrong, unless your a sponsered Pro, which in that case run what ever you want because someone else is flippin the bill. :wink:
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JBaze wrote:Aluminum plates on the other hand, I have actually had them chunk out and contaminate the transmission, not to mention the quick contamination of the tranny oil. I still think for the cost of a Barnett, you can't go wrong
Yep, there are pics in the other thread of my stock aluminum plate clutch blown the F up. I flushed the trans oil out with a garden hose, and changed it about 4 times since that explosion and I'm still getting aluminum particles out of the oil at each draining. On one hand, it's nice the aluminum is substantially softer, but I don't want that crap floating around in the trans in the first place. I bought the carbon Barnett setup from Lukes racing and couldn't be happier.

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barnett carbon fiber or kevlar. which is beter ?
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Carbon.
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ANY concerns over steel plates chewing up the inner and outer clutch baskets?

I've got OEM aluminum in the ol' 84.
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Dakota Boy wrote:ANY concerns over steel plates chewing up the inner and outer clutch baskets?

I've got OEM aluminum in the ol' 84.


I have never personally had any problems at all with the steel plates. They have caused no problem in any of the bikes I have had.
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