which 250 to get?
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which 250 to get?
i am starting to ride tracks more now and my steel frame 500 is just too much for the tracks i ride so i am looking at getting a 250, i know its not a 500 related question but i was hoping someone here would have some expirience with one of these bikes that iam looking at. i have the chance to get a 2001 cr250 with the usual pipe and bars and stuff or a 2005 yz250 that is near stock with low hours and a new top end. i know that the 2001 cr250 was the last year for the good motors but the yz has yamaha's new aluminum frame. has anyone ridden either of these bikes? iam leaning towards the yz because i heard good things about the 05's but iam unsure which one to get...
any input would be appreciated. thanks
any input would be appreciated. thanks
- NightBiker07
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i have a 2000 CR, and i love it! 00-01 share a very similar frame i believe, so i would imagine they would be nearly identical.
my blood flows RED, so im gonna say go HONDA, but depends which is a better deal for the money.
my blood flows RED, so im gonna say go HONDA, but depends which is a better deal for the money.
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- dannygraves
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IMHO - Buy that 01 CR250, try it and see how you like it. And then do an AF conversion! Being that its an 01 - best year 250 motor, you should have no problems selling it to recoup. I've ridden my 01 250 (when it was a 250) on the track and always wanted more. So with that, you'd get the best of both worlds.
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thanks for all of the responses and input guys. i think iam going to go with the yz as the guy only wants 2k for it and its got low hours and i think the handling will be better. the guy with the cr wants to trade for one of my 500's but his is not that clean of a bike. i just need to sell one of my 500's now so i can get that yz, anybody wanna buy a hillclimber? look for my post in the classifieds.
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I could buy a good used YZ250 tomorrow if I had the money. One of my favorite bikes. I think the later model CR250s were dogs. IMO the only engine Honda should have put in those chassis were CR500s. I know there are alot of die hard Honda fans here, but I thought the later model 250 motors were junk. When it comes to 250 smokers I've felt Yamaha and Suzuki have had the cream of the crop for many years...ironic is it that they're the only two Jap manufacturers still in it?
'03 CR500 powered by...umm...a new motor?
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- NightBiker07
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im pretty sure the 2000 motor is the same?dannygraves wrote:yeah, the gen-3 motor with the case reeds had nothing for torque. the '01 cr250 motor was a kick ass 250, but also only 1 year.
I'd get the YZ
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my bros fresh rebuilt 00 250 had absolutely nothing for torque compared to the 02+'s, it revved way higher, but sucked the hind tit down low! 02+ have a rippy almost 4stroke kinda pull down in the basement
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same basic design, but '01 has tons of porting changes and a different carb and revised ignition. '01 is said to be the best 250 motor honda ever made.NightBiker07 wrote:im pretty sure the 2000 motor is the same?dannygraves wrote:yeah, the gen-3 motor with the case reeds had nothing for torque. the '01 cr250 motor was a kick ass 250, but also only 1 year.
I'd get the YZ
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ah.
well, i Honestly dont see how it could get much better than my 00. right of of an idle pace in first and second (idling with the clutch fully engaged) my bike pulls real hard, and really screams up top. torquey-est 2 stroke i have ever ridden. awesome for trail riding. although, i dont know if anything internally has been done. it has a pipe and Vforce reeds, so i know it isnt stock. hmmm.
well, i Honestly dont see how it could get much better than my 00. right of of an idle pace in first and second (idling with the clutch fully engaged) my bike pulls real hard, and really screams up top. torquey-est 2 stroke i have ever ridden. awesome for trail riding. although, i dont know if anything internally has been done. it has a pipe and Vforce reeds, so i know it isnt stock. hmmm.
2000 CR250, pipe, filter, Vforce
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Natural selection favors Smart people, so nature selects morons to be slow and dumb for tigers and stuff too eat. But in our modern world there just aren't enough tigers.
1980 XL80s
1969 Broncco TX-6
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Although I don't think they are built as good as the CR the YZ is the most refined 250 ever made. Easy to get parts for, easy to work on/tune and the power curve is super sweet-- although a little tame for my tastes.
There is a reason that yamaha has been able to sell the same motor for 8+ years with hardly any modifications.
There is a reason that yamaha has been able to sell the same motor for 8+ years with hardly any modifications.
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I guess while they were refining that one they let an amature design the 250F, that 5 valve engine is crap, I used to get 2-3 heads a week for guide and seat repair because they piled up the valvetrain. Don't see much now cuz yammy addressed the problem with a cheaper price on a new head, but I could go tommorrow and get a plastic garbage can full of heads from the build room at the dealership! The jugs peel the nik often too, they do have the cheapest oem replacement parts tho. It just seems to be made way too cheezy!
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