WTF... Rear Hub question

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britincali wrote:IMO if it was needed it would be on both sides.
I'm thinking it's only needed on one side.

That bearing, being locked in by the retaining ring, must take all the axial thrust (since the sprocket side bearings can "float") and it becomes a "sacrificial" bearing (seeing as how you'd rather tear-up one bearing, instead of three).



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ellett wrote:
AlisoBob wrote:The bearings outer portion cannot go in father than the bore they sit in...
But what keeps the outer races from walking out (besides the ball bearings)?
What keeps your front wheel bearings in your pickup as you go down the highway?

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AlisoBob wrote:What keeps your front wheel bearings in your pickup as you go down the highway?
But, those are thrust bearings, designed for side loads. My CR wheel bearings are just plain ol' roller bearings.
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The collar doesnt absorb any of the side loading....
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AlisoBob wrote:The collar doesnt absorb any of the side loading....
Are you sure?
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100%

All it does is provide a place to install the seal.
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AlisoBob wrote:All it does is provide a place to install the seal.
Is that your final answer?
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Yessssir.....
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I've never had one apart, so I was just talking out my ass.

And trying to pad my post count.
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Thats an expensive and time consuming way of making sure a seal dont move......
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Ok, so I win right? Is this gonna be right away, or is it gonna be like forever before I see the ducketts? :lol: I need a clean seat cover for my quad.
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Ported&Polished wrote:Ok, so I win right? Is this gonna be right away, or is it gonna be like forever before I see the ducketts? :lol: I need a clean seat cover for my quad.
LMAO!!! skid marks???
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SKID MARKS HAHAHHA

I believe the reason is close to what others said, since the bearings all slide in from that side Honda probably doesnt get as tight a fit so that its easier to get it, and the following spacer out when swaping bearings.

Remember these bikes were designed as MX bikes which get WAYYY more maintenance then we ever perform. Just look in the service manual. If we replaced pistons as often as the good book says we'd have to be sonsored too!! I think they put the retainer in there so that as the bearings continously get replace and the fit loosens that they are still held positively so that the outers cant spin and beat the crap out of the hub.

Also, I could be completely wrong but I still think I should get the $20 since I actually show up and ride and that means you will actually get that $20 worth of beer next group ride!! HAHAHAHA
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M.F.D.B. wrote: I still think I should get the $20 since I actually show up and ride and that means you will actually get that $20 worth of beer next group ride!!
Your going to spend it on chow for those "Monster Dogs" you breed...

Rob says his weighs 45 lbs. already, @12 weeks!


The bearings dont all install from one side ( i.e., you dont drive both drive side bearings all the way through the hub, install the spacer, then the brake side bearing)

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The manual suggests you do the brake side first.....

Sorry Jr, no Jackson for you....


Weird shit to waste time on....

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conrod wrote:Ok I’ll bite on this one; if I win I want to donate the prize to buy beer for the next ride so you can all have one on me.

It’s a case of Honda being thorough with the engineering, because if you heat the hub up sufficiently so the new bearings will just drop in, you then need a retainer at one side to hold in the bearing and spacer tube while you turn the wheel over to drop in the other side.




conrod

I've read all the responses... this one seems the most logical.

In the Honda manual, it shows all kinds of special ( aka Time Consuming Tools) to install the bearings...NO WAY Honda uses these at the factory, no time to!

Most likely scenario is they heat the hub like Conrod suggests, drop in the right bearing, install the retainer, flip, install the sleeve and left two bearings and put it on the rack to cool.

done.


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Yeah, way to go bob, you get $20 of beer for the next ride, glug glug glug, ahhhhhhhh.

Oh yeah the retainer, I just made it up but it must be something like that, they will drop right in when hot.




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