I'm sure it's been discussed before.
What are the handling differences between the different generations?
Looking to buy a gen-2 AF comversion for MX.
Good choice or no?
Cheers,
Ross
Gen 1 - 4 handling differences
Gen 1 - 4 handling differences
'95 CR500 (which my partner doesn't know about!)
'00 Husaberg FC600
YEEEEHHHA!
'00 Husaberg FC600
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dannygraves
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I love my gen-1, but they make a better highspeed bike than a MX bike. Mine is a dunes only bike now.
My cousin has a unconverted gen-2 that I've ridden quitre a few times, and must say that is a far better MX bike than the gen-1
My cousin has a unconverted gen-2 that I've ridden quitre a few times, and must say that is a far better MX bike than the gen-1
'09 kx450f 4-Poke
Gen-4 trail bike --SOLD--
Gen-3 badass trail/mx bike --SOLD--
Gen-1 built dunes bike --SOLD--
'05 klx110 --SOLD--
'95 pw80
Gen-4 trail bike --SOLD--
Gen-3 badass trail/mx bike --SOLD--
Gen-1 built dunes bike --SOLD--
'05 klx110 --SOLD--
'95 pw80
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teemtrubble
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not surprisingly,
its been a natural progression and refinement from Honda thru the frame gens.
Each is overall a bit better than the one before.
Some steps were leaps, some where less drastic,
but still noticable improvements.
all handle better ,and feel lighter than a steelie.
a gen 2 is quite an improvement from a gen 1
The gen1 as noted have an uncomfortable seat/ergos compared to most any other gen
I actually liked the Gen1s just fine!!
and felt at home on them
but i would say they are the least forgiving in setup.
set the susp up properly and they handle quite well
vary even slightly , and thier handling and manners degrad rapidly.
so stay on top of race sag and general set up..
The gen 2 was an improvement in comfort/ergos, and in hanldling,
and you could be a bit off in susp set up,
and it wouldnt get all cranky.
Gen3's were more of a refinement, did improve handling ,
and were not too picky about set up.
they can still handle decently, even if you have the susp pretty whack.
and of course handle very well when set up properly.
the gen 3 on a 125 chassis ( steeper steering head)
(service Honda Limited Edition's, and team trubble recent bikes)
handling was a little quicker than the 250 based gen3..
and did not seem to suffer any loss of stabilty..from the steeper head angle at all. a win - win.
the gen4's (i've only experience on the CRF250R and X based gen 4's )
are very good handling machines,
as they are again at thier roots a quick handling *tiddler* class bike,,
and again a refinment of a long proven chassis design.
The ergos are a bit smaller,
(so big guys *might* feel more cramped)
but the overall feel of the bike is generally more comfy ,
lighter and quicker handling.
The 08 having stabilizer and the 22 mm offset triple clamps-
is noticable over the 05-07s'
It's my favorite chassis by far.
but i dont expect honda to go backwards , and it makes sense that each refinement would gradually improve the overall feel.
and make no mistake, between any gens you can feel a difference for sure.
jump between a gen 1 or 2 and then onto a new 08 gen4,
and its a prettty radical difference.
again that should be no surprise, there is a decade of pretty constant and consistant refinements ,and they SHOULD be noticable....
AJ
its been a natural progression and refinement from Honda thru the frame gens.
Each is overall a bit better than the one before.
Some steps were leaps, some where less drastic,
but still noticable improvements.
all handle better ,and feel lighter than a steelie.
a gen 2 is quite an improvement from a gen 1
The gen1 as noted have an uncomfortable seat/ergos compared to most any other gen
I actually liked the Gen1s just fine!!
and felt at home on them
but i would say they are the least forgiving in setup.
set the susp up properly and they handle quite well
vary even slightly , and thier handling and manners degrad rapidly.
so stay on top of race sag and general set up..
The gen 2 was an improvement in comfort/ergos, and in hanldling,
and you could be a bit off in susp set up,
and it wouldnt get all cranky.
Gen3's were more of a refinement, did improve handling ,
and were not too picky about set up.
they can still handle decently, even if you have the susp pretty whack.
and of course handle very well when set up properly.
the gen 3 on a 125 chassis ( steeper steering head)
(service Honda Limited Edition's, and team trubble recent bikes)
handling was a little quicker than the 250 based gen3..
and did not seem to suffer any loss of stabilty..from the steeper head angle at all. a win - win.
the gen4's (i've only experience on the CRF250R and X based gen 4's )
are very good handling machines,
as they are again at thier roots a quick handling *tiddler* class bike,,
and again a refinment of a long proven chassis design.
The ergos are a bit smaller,
(so big guys *might* feel more cramped)
but the overall feel of the bike is generally more comfy ,
lighter and quicker handling.
The 08 having stabilizer and the 22 mm offset triple clamps-
is noticable over the 05-07s'
It's my favorite chassis by far.
but i dont expect honda to go backwards , and it makes sense that each refinement would gradually improve the overall feel.
and make no mistake, between any gens you can feel a difference for sure.
jump between a gen 1 or 2 and then onto a new 08 gen4,
and its a prettty radical difference.
again that should be no surprise, there is a decade of pretty constant and consistant refinements ,and they SHOULD be noticable....
AJ
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I have tall bars, and lowered footpegs on mine... I'm 6' 7" and 290# and could ride that bike all day.AJ wrote:
The ergos are a bit smaller, (so big guys might feel more cramped)
but the overall feel of the bike is generally more comfy ,
lighter and quicker handling.
AJ
30 miles loops are nothing.... Very comfortable.
S/H should consider the lowered pegs as an option.
http://www.crfsonly.com/catalog/product ... ts_id/1397
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bob, good idea.
we actually offer anything oem or aftermarket that a customer wants to spec.
we just dont have everything on the options page,there's just way to much out there to list?
but i agree the lowered footpegs are something that should be on that page ..
thanks!
its funny, i'm a little dude, but prefer the high bars as well,
and run them forward a bit..it just seems to give me more room..
comfy fo rme,, and i'm japanese size
i always wonder how regular sized 500 guys feel at home on these little bikes anymore.LOL
but they are a very balanced and comfortabe bike ,Honda does thier ergo homework,
(heck i always felt right a thome on the steellies for that matter)
we actually offer anything oem or aftermarket that a customer wants to spec.
we just dont have everything on the options page,there's just way to much out there to list?
but i agree the lowered footpegs are something that should be on that page ..
thanks!
its funny, i'm a little dude, but prefer the high bars as well,
and run them forward a bit..it just seems to give me more room..
comfy fo rme,, and i'm japanese size
i always wonder how regular sized 500 guys feel at home on these little bikes anymore.LOL
but they are a very balanced and comfortabe bike ,Honda does thier ergo homework,
(heck i always felt right a thome on the steellies for that matter)
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