The "Y"

iggys-amsoil · Post by **iggys-amsoil** » October 10th, 2007, 3:32 pm

You know, its gotten to the point of making a sticky titled "101 Ways To Do The Y."

HrcRacing · Post by **HrcRacing** » October 10th, 2007, 3:54 pm

AlisoBob wrote:I saw that and think its pretty cool...... but the inner voice keeps telling me ...."These are just dirtbikes..."

My Gen 3 conversion dosent require any cutting of the cradle, and only modest reworking of the "Y"..... With a 125 as a starting point, you do what you gotta do!

Not as fancy or high tech, but in the reach of more folks I think.

Yea... lots of indusrty and machinery in Cali makes anything possible!

We're on the same page Bob. I have no intention of moving or fabricating a new Y, etc, when I get a Gen 3 (I have a guy interested in a trade, we'll see) and plan on doing as little fab work as possible.

Still, I like to see guys that can do work like that. I don't need it myself but appreciate the talent.

Post by **AlisoBob** » October 10th, 2007, 3:55 pm

teemtrubble · Post by **teemtrubble** » October 12th, 2007, 6:44 pm

Sorry about that blue thing in the back ground my son took the pictures. Thanks again Robert. I was trying to figure out how to post the pics in the approvred vendors section. When I get some time I'll do that. Thanks Bob for the call it was good talking to you. To all you hoons out there If I can help feel free to contact me

Post by **AlisoBob** » October 12th, 2007, 8:47 pm

Blue is cool... We know guys with CR500 powered Yz's...

Yea, I enjoyed our phone call too.... i wont be the last!

ZEROFEAR66 · Post by **ZEROFEAR66** » June 15th, 2008, 4:00 pm

iggys-amsoil wrote:As for the winning pic. I would still plate the front and back. Yeah you know why.

Here's one of Zerofear66's gen2

DAM! I miss that bike....Makes me want to do my Gen 3 that much cleaner.....
If its possible....

iggys-amsoil · Post by **iggys-amsoil** » June 15th, 2008, 10:41 pm

With a bike so clean I wonder if the home shows like a model. Thats a comp.

With TT's Y, soon it will be said;.... "Remove noted Y and install the TT Tuning Fork."

AJ · Post by AJ » June 16th, 2008, 7:02 am

I want something cost effective, S/H can keep the $16.5 k market all sewn up for themselves

a brand new SH CR500AF is $9,500.
a complete *conversion kit*, when supplying me yoiur franme, pipe silenccer all parts needed and already modfied ,
is $1,800 (includes shipping costs back to you)

dog my work all ya'll want, but at least keep the actual facts /pricing straight?

as far as the examples shown of variuos Y's
some beautiful work!

Post by **AlisoBob** » June 16th, 2008, 8:02 am

AJ wrote: dog my work all ya'll want, but at least keep the actual facts /pricing straight?

Service Honda Website wrote:Shown in these pictures is a very black AF with a powder coated black frame, swing arm, and sub frame. ...... The above bike can be duplicated for about $16,500.

My facts are straight.

BIGWORM500 · Post by **BIGWORM500** » June 16th, 2008, 10:07 am

britincali wrote:
AlisoBob wrote:5 oz of some sticky sensimillia?

I aint tellin yet....

get it out

AJ · Post by AJ » June 16th, 2008, 10:07 am

A new stock SH bikes pricing isnt 16K

and at 1800 , a build assemble it yourself "conversion kit"
is reasonably priced.

now IF, you want to take ONE extreeme example of a customer of mine that wanted all kinds of bling,expensive coatings, as well as 3K in Ti parts,, as representative of SH 16K market..
then you're right, that one guy did exist.
hardly a market ..?? call it what you want.

my OPNINION bob,

,since its a forum for ALL opinions right?

is that your were intentionally picking the very highest priced AF youve seen , to make some point. While ignoring that SH offers other more afforedable options.

there are many options out there,
i think its great you present them.

how you do so, is your choice obviously.

ISBB · Post by **ISBB** » June 16th, 2008, 12:58 pm

9k is still hardly affordable when the cost of a roller a donor and all tools necessary including the welders time and fab costs is less than 9k and you can fleabay the extra parts to offset some of the initial costs. and in my opinion come out with a better product in the end.. Just my 2 cents

lewisclan · Post by **lewisclan** » June 16th, 2008, 1:10 pm

but you still dont have a 0 hour bike . what does a new 450 cost ?

ISBB · Post by **ISBB** » June 16th, 2008, 1:22 pm

definatley less than 9k

lewisclan · Post by **lewisclan** » June 16th, 2008, 1:37 pm

ok so buy one and then buy a new cr500 0 hour motor and tell me how much $$ ya got into it

AJ · Post by AJ » June 16th, 2008, 1:46 pm

ISBB-
i do understandwhere you are coming from.

9.5k is far different than 16K,
which was my whole point?

9.5K vs 6 or 7K for a CRF450R? is certainly more expensive.
( but get back to me on resale value of the 450,,and i'd say we are pretty even? )
but idont think we should debate that any bike built in quantities of hundreds, rather than thousands, cost a bit more ?

nor should we debate a that brand new bike ,
costs more than a used one..?

and as far as on the used front-
16K or 9K is also a lot different than $1,800
so as far as using your own chassis and your own refurbished, CR500 engine.. i stated the conversion costs.

and yes of course a bike can be done reasonably that way,
regardless of who you choose to do it,
or how much you do yourself.

This thread was about the "Y"
it has some very nice examples of some here..

sorry for sidetracking it.

HrcRacing · Post by **HrcRacing** » June 16th, 2008, 3:59 pm

I like the resale point. I got a whopping $2,600.00 for my prestine '03 CRF450 and bought my even more prestine '04 CR250 for the same.

I have every confidence that I can at least get my money back for my SH converted '04 CR500AF. Had I not gone with a new engine, carb, etc, I would have made money on it and might still if I ever choose to sell it.

Post by **AlisoBob** » June 16th, 2008, 5:09 pm

AJ wrote: .....at 1800 , a build assemble it yourself "conversion kit"
is reasonably priced.

This is reasonable, and fills the need for someone without skillz, lliving in a remote area, no access to a decent welder, and lacking confidance to get out the sawzall.

or

$1800 can build a whole bike, like Crackers example.

Thats the greatest thing about the CR500.... find your comfort level, and go for it...

From buying a Turnkey bike ( S/H or TTM) of finding a basket case motor and building a bike around it.

The choice is yours!

redrocket190 · Post by **redrocket190** » June 16th, 2008, 7:27 pm

What does a turnkey bike from TTM cost in comparison to Service Honda? Apples to apples comparison.

nmdesertrider · Post by **nmdesertrider** » June 16th, 2008, 8:40 pm

there's nothing wrong with wanting to ride a 500af and having no interest in building one

Post by **AlisoBob** » June 16th, 2008, 8:44 pm

nmdesertrider wrote:there's nothing wrong with wanting to ride a 500af and having no interest in building one

Nope, but building the machine is a journey in itself....

You learn more than about dirtbikes, you learn about your self.

sabreguy · Post by **sabreguy** » June 16th, 2008, 9:00 pm

AlisoBob wrote: You learn more than about dirtbikes, you learn about your self.

Damn.............Now that's deep

HrcRacing · Post by **HrcRacing** » June 16th, 2008, 9:43 pm

redrocket190 wrote:What does a turnkey bike from TTM cost in comparison to Service Honda? Apples to apples comparison.

I don't think that Mike does turn key bikes, does he?

nmdesertrider · Post by **nmdesertrider** » June 16th, 2008, 10:08 pm

don't get all pirsig on me!!

AlisoBob wrote:
nmdesertrider wrote:there's nothing wrong with wanting to ride a 500af and having no interest in building one
Nope, but building the machine is a journey in itself....

You learn more than about dirtbikes, you learn about your self.

redrocket190 · Post by **redrocket190** » June 17th, 2008, 6:47 am

nmdesertrider wrote:there's nothing wrong with wanting to ride a 500af and having no interest in building one

...I feel validated. Thanks.

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The "Y"