crappy Excel wheels???

Wheelie-Gene · Post by **Wheelie-Gene** » June 13th, 2008, 6:15 pm

Since my old XL600 already had a 17" rear rim, I was shopping for a 17"er for the front. I've seen many bikes on the forums that had Excel rims, so that's what I ordered from the good folks at Pro Cycle.
Well......I bead blasted and powder coated it to match what I have on the rear. I laced it up and I couldn't believe how out-of-round it was at the seam weld (weld seam???). I trued the thing the best that I could by splitting the difference between the dip and the wobble. It's close enough that it won't cause any problems, I'm just disappointed in the quality of what I got. Is this on par w/Excels, or is there a high-end Excel line also??? I called the parts dude at Pro Cycle and he confirmed that Excel's process does leave more to be desired. He didn't try to talk me out of purchasing the Excel, he sold me what I was asking for.....It's all in the fact that if you buy cheap, you get cheap.

Now I'm making progress on my conversion, I did some research on rim makers and decided on a set of Sun rims. I was impressed when the 3.5" front wheel trued up nicely (almost too easy). I was amazed when I spun the 4.25" rear wheel in the truing stand for the first time. It had a little wobble and a slight hop, but the rim was straight. After some careful adjusting I got it to run perfect. I did more research and found out that Sun spins their wheels in a lathe after production. No dips at the seam........ I can't believe it......The little extra that I paid for the non-Excel "upgrade" was well worth it.
The gold anodizing option really looks sweet. Can't wait to see how it looks when the bike comes together.

arleybeer40 · Post by **arleybeer40** » June 13th, 2008, 6:29 pm

ctatv · Post by **ctatv** » June 13th, 2008, 6:37 pm

no problems with my excels

Ported&Polished · Post by **Ported&Polished** » June 13th, 2008, 6:45 pm

That's first time I ever heard someone complain about Excells. I also think Sun is good, and maybe the very best is a little company called DID.

Wheelie-Gene · Post by **Wheelie-Gene** » June 14th, 2008, 6:56 am

Since I 'coated the Excel, it wasn't returnable. It didn't pose any danger and I wanted to ride, so I settled w/what I got. Bad thig is...I can spy down beside the tire and the fork and see the wobble in the tire (from the dip in the rim). Can't feel it on the highway so it all seems to be good.

Pics???? I'll take some short vid clips and post what I have, as soon as I can get around to it.

Yeah, D.I.D. is a good litle hole-in-the-wall company that's been around for a while. Suns are made in CA (good 'ol American quality), Excels are Japanese.
Maybe the dude at the rolling machine had other things on his mind and I got a bad one.
Just poor quality control in my opinion...

Pro Cycle's spokes are top quality. I hit each one w/a polishing wheel and they shined up like chrome.

iggys-amsoil · Post by **iggys-amsoil** » June 15th, 2008, 10:23 pm

Came up just a little short on the Perris triple. Not mine, rider didn't crash either.

BIGWORM500 · Post by **BIGWORM500** » June 16th, 2008, 10:09 am

Now thats a snapped wheel .Damn.

ctatv · Post by **ctatv** » June 16th, 2008, 2:13 pm

wow ^^^

DOHCFOX · Post by **DOHCFOX** » June 16th, 2008, 2:22 pm

Shoot! And I've always jokingly called Takasago rims, "Eat-a-taco" rims!

lewisclan · Post by **lewisclan** » June 16th, 2008, 2:39 pm

MICK · Post by **MICK** » June 16th, 2008, 3:29 pm

Ouch...see that's why I'm chicken shit to do a triple where I ride. I get visions of unspeakable horrors!

But historically I've felt that Excel offers really good stuff...I've never seen or heard of someone unhappy with their product. Maybe their 17" S/M line is a little sub par?

The 2.5x19 I laced late last year basically trued itself while I turned the spoke wrench. Very easy install.

Mad Dog · Post by **Mad Dog** » June 16th, 2008, 3:48 pm

So let's see.
There's Excel/Takasago, Sun, D.I.D.
Any others?

PowerFiend · Post by **PowerFiend** » June 17th, 2008, 7:57 pm

MICK wrote:Ouch...see that's why I'm chicken shit to do a triple where I ride. I get visions of unspeakable horrors!

But historically I've felt that Excel offers really good stuff...I've never seen or heard of someone unhappy with their product. Maybe their 17" S/M line is a little sub par?

The 2.5x19 I laced late last year basically trued itself while I turned the spoke wrench. Very easy install.

The Excel SM rims are better than Behr. The Behr rims are soft and dent easy.

PowerFiend · Post by **PowerFiend** » June 17th, 2008, 7:59 pm

Mad Dog wrote:So let's see.
There's Excel/Takasago, Sun, D.I.D.
Any others?

Yeah, the Pro Wheel that is busted above. Also the Warp 9. I have always heard that the old DID dirtstars are better than the Excel's, but they don't import them anymore.

kanecr50094 · Post by **kanecr50094** » July 1st, 2008, 8:40 pm

I HERD HERE IN AUSTRALIA YOU CAN STILL BUY THEM DIDS

dahondaboy · Post by **dahondaboy** » July 4th, 2008, 8:02 am

yup light dosent always mean strong, and I have an xr600r, with that kind of weight I would never put excels on it.
The xl and xr's are tanks! you could put a solid steel wheel on it and not notice a difference

but seriously I have did gold rims on mine off'n a 70's xr500. there isnt that much weight difference between the vintage did's and an excel.
but the did is at least 10 tims stronger and more forgiving to improper spoke tightness. i have seen 2 exploded excel rims from bad landings but only a dent in a did!

kanecr50094 · Post by **kanecr50094** » July 7th, 2008, 3:06 pm

i got a takasgo from a yamaha tt or it one of them i think and it has a lip on the shoulder of the rim ,well i juust got some spokes for me honda and put them into it [laced up etc]the nipples are bigger on the hondas and the angle for the spokes to line up to the honda hub is,every 2nd one has to be drilled ,easy] then turn arround and do the same.then you have to by eye drill each one when it is nearly laced up because as you pull it into align some spokes will need a bit more of an angle to be drilled,so anyway the spokes cost me 100 bucks just nickel steel,stainless are weeker.bead blasted hub,polished rim new bearings seals,all up on the track again for $120 ,see if i can get a pick of it to yas

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crappy Excel wheels???

crappy Excel wheels???