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Slow old Fart · Post by **Slow old Fart** » May 10th, 2008, 3:16 pm

dannygraves wrote:damn it! why are you so far away?! Ive got tons of things I want to try on a dyno!!!!

don't you have one in your neck of the woods?

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » May 10th, 2008, 3:20 pm

teemtrubble wrote:
100hp honda but shouldn't your screen name be 89.07hp honda? I'm just playing man....That's awesome!

its not my motor. a guy in california built it for some chaps in austraila

97af · Post by **97af** » May 10th, 2008, 3:20 pm

Slow old Fart wrote: I have enough experience to know not to ride a first generation AF.

Why is that? because you read "some where" they were stiff?
At least I ride one of the gens......Actually a 1st and the rest are III's reside in my garage.Theres even a couple of steelys. What about yours???????

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » May 10th, 2008, 3:24 pm

Slow old Fart wrote:
dannygraves wrote:damn it! why are you so far away?! Ive got tons of things I want to try on a dyno!!!!
don't you have one in your neck of the woods?

Ya, infact MFDB has to hook up on the dyno at racers edge, but I like the idea of a day with a bunch of hoons swapping parts, jets, cdis and jugs seeing what kind of numbers we could come up with.

teemtrubble · Post by **teemtrubble** » May 10th, 2008, 3:25 pm

100hp honda wrote:
teemtrubble wrote:
100hp honda but shouldn't your screen name be 89.07hp honda? I'm just playing man....That's awesome!
its not my motor. a guy in california built it for some chaps in austraila

Aw man and I thought that was a dyno report from your bike....

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » May 10th, 2008, 3:27 pm

Slow old Fart wrote:
97af wrote:
Slow old Fart wrote: I am going by a dyno test in the 1999 dirt rider....
I have freinds of mine who build engines..............
.....I know what they make because my freinds........
They are supposed to run,handle good .....or bad.....
I read that..............
Dude,
Do you have any first hand expierience with any of this stuff at all?
I have enough experience to know not to ride a first generation AF.

dude! I'm getting tired of your gen 1 shit talk! bring your shit out to dumont in the fall and I will bet my shitty gen-1 will stop all over your fat ass!
I'm a shitty rider too... infact flat out lucky I can even hand on most of the time... but my bike will do all the work for me.

Ported&Polished · Post by **Ported&Polished** » May 10th, 2008, 3:30 pm

his has 100HP.

Which btw is very doable. You just need to run alky and have the kind of engine mods his new engine is getting. I can't wait to see it, it's been months Clyde, get that motor!

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » May 10th, 2008, 3:34 pm

shit, who really wants to...I used to have the powerbug, but now I'm getting ready to detune mine, its geting uncontrollable... definitly no truck sized flat spot here!

I hate to say but the slow old son of a bitch is right about the flat spot...honda did that with the CDI, not port timing, not pipe. A cr250 cdi removed the flat spot which in turn renderes the bike almost uncontrolable, but fun as fuck if you can hang on. This is also why I wrecked my last 3 rides out, before that I was running the 500 cdi with is nice a freindly mellow stock tune.

97af · Post by **97af** » May 10th, 2008, 3:35 pm

dannygraves wrote:
dude! I'm getting tired of your gen 1 shit talk! bring your shit out to dumont in the fall .

Danny,I really dont think he has any "s..." to bring.

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » May 10th, 2008, 3:36 pm

since I have both setups and a pile of pipes and carbs, I really want a day at the dyno to try every configuration.

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » May 10th, 2008, 3:37 pm

97af wrote:
dannygraves wrote:
dude! I'm getting tired of your gen 1 shit talk! bring your shit out to dumont in the fall .
Danny,I really dont think he has any "s..." to bring.

Ya...bummer isn't it, I'd be more than happy to prove him right and have him walk all over me on a 02-04 crf chassis...

teemtrubble · Post by **teemtrubble** » May 10th, 2008, 3:38 pm

Slow old Fart wrote:
teemtrubble wrote:C'mon Scott now how could "you" personally have more access to motor info if "you" have friends and "read" these things and "I own a Dyno" I also work on Flight systems parts for the space shuttle that doesn't mean I can fly it and I wouldn't try telling people they don't know what their talking about. You are right about the 55 rwhp but some CR500's make less.

100hp honda but shouldn't your screen name be 89.07hp honda? I'm just playing man....

And by the way are sure you want to be part of the shuttle program? I call that thing Killer if you know what I mean.

If you tell people you work on the shuttle they may be scared to ride one of your bikes because it may come apart in flight.

Give me a old Saturn V, hey Bob what was the greatest machine man ever made?

They were especting to loose about 1 orbiter in 50 so it has about the right track record for the design.

Yeah I do! and I'm proud of it! I work on a bunch of DOD stuff as well for our military so they can protect our freedom so guy's like you can have an opinion!

I suppose you can fly a Saturn V too!

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » May 10th, 2008, 3:39 pm

teemtrubble wrote:
100hp honda wrote:
teemtrubble wrote:
100hp honda but shouldn't your screen name be 89.07hp honda? I'm just playing man....That's awesome!
its not my motor. a guy in california built it for some chaps in austraila
Aw man and I thought that was a dyno report from your bike....

nope not mine. but that same guy is working on a totally new cr500 cylinder (not rehashed stock cylinder) with 98mm bore i believe. i called him today to see what the deal is but he not home. ill call again tonight probly

Ported&Polished · Post by **Ported&Polished** » May 10th, 2008, 5:29 pm

What about your motor Clyde? What is the deal with the one being built, inquiring minds want to know.

Slow old Fart · Post by **Slow old Fart** » May 10th, 2008, 5:42 pm

dannygraves wrote:since I have both setups and a pile of pipes and carbs, I really want a day at the dyno to try every configuration.

It's actually a waist of time to dyno all the small changes they do not really add to much in what you see but can make the feel of the bike alot diffrerent by seat of the pants. The best thing to do is just test with seat of the pants and build the power you like.

I believe in a dyno test for serious mods so you can see a big difference.

The best easiest power to ride to where like you can wheelie forever i believe is just a real light port job buy someone who knows how to adjust transfer to create better fuel flow on a stock motor with the stock 38mm carb.

Slow old Fart · Post by **Slow old Fart** » May 10th, 2008, 5:45 pm

teemtrubble wrote:
Slow old Fart wrote:
teemtrubble wrote:C'mon Scott now how could "you" personally have more access to motor info if "you" have friends and "read" these things and "I own a Dyno" I also work on Flight systems parts for the space shuttle that doesn't mean I can fly it and I wouldn't try telling people they don't know what their talking about. You are right about the 55 rwhp but some CR500's make less.

100hp honda but shouldn't your screen name be 89.07hp honda? I'm just playing man....

And by the way are sure you want to be part of the shuttle program? I call that thing Killer if you know what I mean.

If you tell people you work on the shuttle they may be scared to ride one of your bikes because it may come apart in flight.

Give me a old Saturn V, hey Bob what was the greatest machine man ever made?

They were especting to loose about 1 orbiter in 50 so it has about the right track record for the design.

Yeah I do! and I'm proud of it! I work on a bunch of DOD stuff as well for our military so they can protect our freedom so guy's like you can have an opinion!

I suppose you can fly a Saturn V too!

Do you read the legislation our goverment is passing lately? doesn't look like the land of the free to me.

teemtrubble · Post by **teemtrubble** » May 10th, 2008, 6:17 pm

Do you read the legislation our goverment is passing lately? doesn't look like the land of the free to me.[/quote]

Yeah and that part does suck!

Slow old Fart · Post by **Slow old Fart** » May 10th, 2008, 6:28 pm

teemtrubble wrote:Do you read the legislation our goverment is passing lately? doesn't look like the land of the free to me.

Yeah and that part does suck![/quote] Your earning a living off of this thing so I can understand a little but selling your soul for profit may not be a wise thing in the end.

I think it was Ben Franklin who said those who will give up liberty for security deserve niether!

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » May 10th, 2008, 7:03 pm

Slow old Fart wrote:
dannygraves wrote:since I have both setups and a pile of pipes and carbs, I really want a day at the dyno to try every configuration.
It's actually a waist of time to dyno all the small changes they do not really add to much in what you see but can make the feel of the bike alot diffrerent by seat of the pants. The best thing to do is just test with seat of the pants and build the power you like.

I believe in a dyno test for serious mods so you can see a big difference.

The best easiest power to ride to where like you can wheelie forever i believe is just a real light port job buy someone who knows how to adjust transfer to create better fuel flow on a stock motor with the stock 38mm carb.

well, that IS what I've been doing... I was talking about numbers... a lot of the changes were pretty big, like different cut heads, different jugs (with different porting) and completely different carbs (mikuni 41 pro w/ powerjet vs pwk 39.5), DeWayne modified FMF, FMF Gnarly, PC, etc.
BTW, both of the carbs I mentioned outperform the stock carb from idle-full throttle...there is no doubt in my mind.

Ported&Polished · Post by **Ported&Polished** » May 10th, 2008, 7:52 pm

dannygraves wrote: A cr250 cdi renderes the bike almost uncontrolable, but fun as fuck if you can hang on.

Can you tell me more about this? Which cr250 cdi? What else was needed?

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » May 10th, 2008, 10:36 pm

if you have an '86 500 stator and flywheel, then you can just use a '86-'88 250 cdi (which is what I did), otherwise you have the get the stator plate and coils, flywheel and CDI from about any year 250. '92-'96 seems to be desireable because of the ability to add an 80watt lighting coil. the '97+ will fit, but those are digital and have a form of traction control.

Ported&Polished · Post by **Ported&Polished** » May 10th, 2008, 11:52 pm

Interesting. My buddy has a 86 motor with a 86 trx 250 ignition, and a rewound coil for about 200 watts. It's a snappy motor, but he had to have the outer case cut and reshaped and rewelded to fit over the delio.

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » May 11th, 2008, 8:53 am

ya, the cr250 stuff bolts right on

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