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ou812 wrote:Mine is steel with a 16.5 front and I can kick butt on the 2 local AF 500's because unlike a roadrace bike, a SM needs a certian amount of give (flex) The AF's are less forgiving, that why most stay with spokes not mags. Second almost all SM riding is done at low corner speeds 5 to 50 mph. I think if you got out on a track set up for SM you will find power ain't the issue, even if you are blinding fast the pack will kill you on most of the course. like any road racing the key is drive and this is were the 500 is very weak, 450's are on the gas at the apex with the peg on the ground, even with a bone stock 500 trying to drive at the apex will spit you off faster then you can say "Oh Shit". What your talking about would only make that condition worse.

Also the 500 has no engine braking ,again this puts you in a worse position the a 4 banger which can set up for the corner in a vastly better fashion by what is known to most as "backing it in".

On the topic of 500 GP bikes that does not trans late to a SM 500 single. GP 500 bikes were multi cylinders with a way wider spread of power and vastly better ability to tune for each track it ran on, also in the modern era GP 500's were changed to "Big Bang" engines at a cost to HP but while having less HP they picked up better drive which in turn produced faster lap time. The lesson leanered better drive is faster then big HP numbers. Lastly the skill need to make a 500 GP bike go fast was incerdible, it took almost super human skill to ride one at a competitive lap time. Case in point, The best 2 or 3 riders that wrote for mags Mat Oxaly and others and tested true GP bikes were faster on lap times on 250's then they were on the 500's they would test at the end of each season.

But what you appear to want is fine as a great shits and gigles bike.


Actually I do not know anything about super moto, There is or was a track down the road in Ocala where they run. I just call it that but I am after more of a bike that can keep up with the sporties to a 1/8 or a 1/4 mile in excelleration and out handle them by a good bit. Road bikes are not my forte at all I am now just learning about them.

You do not seem to think it can do that? I know i cannot push it to the limit but what about a good rider. A 450 CRF is slow as hell but probably the fastest way to race block to block on back streets?

I can set my 04 CRF 450 back up as a back street block racer that is what i am looking for. Is that superior to a Cr 500 for that?

I gave up on the Saber but maybe Mcoy can pull it off.

I sold the motor in my 04 CRF 450 should I just go on ebay do the buy it now and put it back as a tagged super moto? I just ask because I am scared to blow one up. They are ready for the trash after that!

Thankyou for your reply, I appreciate your info alot. I am not 330 but 300 and I need alot of motor to go.

I want to talk to you on the issue of flex but i do not have time at the momment. again thankyou!
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Make a poll of who wants an aftermarket jug, if there seems to be enough i'll see what i can get made, I have a local foundary dooing some work for me, also an Australian company making me 350 chevy blocks in aluminum and cast, and some China/Jap, custom casting guys dooing things aswell. If theres a big call for it like 150-200 cyls or more I can see it beeing a possibility.


I'd seen a dude at the fordville hillclimb with a big aftermarket cyl that guys told me was a sidecar part, never seen pictures since, but if anyone can come up with some i'd like to see it!
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You do not seem to think it can do that?
Sure you can, note this statment:
But what you appear to want is fine as a great shits and gigles bike.
But that is all it will be, A very fast street SM that would work very poorly on a closed course. but to burn around on the street it would be fine but I think you will find you won't be fast in stop and go cornnering like you may think, second thats a good way to get hurt.

Save your self a ton of money and just put a 25 shot of giggle gas on it , sport bikes can't pull a 500 for the first 2 gears, when you hit third give it a spray, blist by them again and just shut it down, by that time you will be going plenty fast if your just farting around block to block.
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ou812 wrote:
You do not seem to think it can do that?
Sure you can, note this statment:
But what you appear to want is fine as a great shits and gigles bike.
But that is all it will be, A very fast street SM that would work very poorly on a closed course. but to burn around on the street it would be fine but I think you will find you won't be fast in stop and go cornnering like you may think, second thats a good way to get hurt.

Save your self a ton of money and just put a 25 shot of giggle gas on it , sport bikes can't pull a 500 for the first 2 gears, when you hit third give it a spray, blist by them again and just shut it down, by that time you will be going plenty fast if your just farting around block to block.
I appreciate you returning my post. when I got my first AF I was seriously disappointed in how rigid it was. I personally do not really think the bikes are that great and an oldstyle back bone frame for most would be better that had todays geometries.

No amount of suspension work is going to make the front give or chasses flex when and where you need it to.

How does your steelie flex make it to where you rip on the AF guys? Oh and how did you end uo with a 87 motor in a 2000 chasses and did you ever try the 87 frame for what you are doing? thanks.
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I bilt a saber 500 on a 01 cr 250 case, and put in the 01 frame. It was faster than the cr 500, But you had to be on the pipe like a 250 and you get a weakend of riding and it blows up. So its fun for the hill But anything else it sucks.
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Personally I would not want a 80's frame for SM, the ones I've seen have done some nasty stuff at speed for no reason. I picked up a mint 2000 roller from a guy going to the AF deal. It was cheap and had tons of spares with it and I had a extra 87 motor waiting. 87's rip good right out of the box.

SM's have a habit of front end chatter that is hard to deal with, going from a 17x 3.50 to a 16.5 x3.5 front helps quite a bit but they still like to tuck with little warning, the steelies seem to flex a little just before this point and let you know, were as the AF's don't do that, no warning just boom your gone atleast with a 500 power plant. The AF is more nimble but feels twichy unlike the steelie. You must remeber neither one was ment to run with super soft compound slicks at 18 to 20 pounds. But setup is differant with the 500 power plant in both types of frame compared to the 450's.
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Hey SOF - Join Kirsty and get a "Sponcer" as you spelled it......ROLFMAO

Get Jenny Craig you idiot - and stop trying the make that CR5 pull yur fat ass around - you are all spooge talk about people you know.... that did things and yet you have done nothing but post spooge here.


You sit at your PC waiting to see a post each day so you can write a book on it.

Call me an Idiot? I ride I don't spooge out info 2nd hand. All this tech garbly gook you post means nada to these dudes - they are sick of your spooged out long ass verbose "obversations"

You are JUST THAT - and Observer not a Rider - not if you count your PC chair as a RIDE.

BTW your post on Methanol use on a Liquid Cooled bike was entertaining at best....I have done it and it works....how many sand drags have you campaigned? How many hill races have you been in?

Oh, I forgot you KNOW SOMEONE that has..but you haven't done anything yourself but refer to your friends and peeps that are the most on the planet.

There are others out there like me that have 1st hand experience unlike you who sits at his PC and post like a Banshee all day and Nite - do you have a JOB?

Post some Pics of your BS adventures and endeavors to prove you are a hoon....after all it's all sugar and sand for you.

I am sure you have more saddle time in your PC chair than I have had saddle time on a CR5 in the past 23 yrs. Time for a Hemmoroid checkup I think.

My ass gets sore from riding (Baboon Ass!) not sitting at my PC spoogin' out "observations" and eating at the same time.

Try an IMS tank they hold enough Gas that maybe you could get back to camp - that is if your piston didn't sieze - the CR5 wasn't made to carry elephants around.

Have another box of twinkies and post more spooge

Shut your Pie Hole and Ride

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Freemer wrote:Hey SOF - Join Kirsty and get a "Sponcer" as you spelled it......ROLFMAO

Get Jenny Craig you idiot - and stop trying the make that CR5 pull yur fat ass around - you are all spooge talk about people you know.... that did things and yet you have done nothing but post spooge here.


You sit at your PC waiting to see a post each day so you can write a book on it.

Call me an Idiot? I ride I don't spooge out info 2nd hand. All this tech garbly gook you post means nada to these dudes - they are sick of your spooged out long ass verbose "obversations"

You are JUST THAT - and Observer not a Rider - not if you count your PC chair as a RIDE.

BTW your post on Methanol use on a Liquid Cooled bike was entertaining at best....I have done it and it works....how many sand drags have you campaigned? How many hill races have you been in?

Oh, I forgot you KNOW SOMEONE that has..but you haven't done anything yourself but refer to your friends and peeps that are the most on the planet.

There are others out there like me that have 1st hand experience unlike you who sits at his PC and post like a Banshee all day and Nite - do you have a JOB?

Post some Pics of your BS adventures and endeavors to prove you are a hoon....after all it's all sugar and sand for you.

I am sure you have more saddle time in your PC chair than I have had saddle time on a CR5 in the past 23 yrs. Time for a Hemmoroid checkup I think.

My ass gets sore from riding (Baboon Ass!) not sitting at my PC spoogin' out "observations" and eating at the same time.

Try an IMS tank they hold enough Gas that maybe you could get back to camp - that is if your piston didn't sieze - the CR5 wasn't made to carry elephants around.

Have another box of twinkies and post more spooge

Shut your Pie Hole and Ride

:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
Freemer I think you need to make an appoinment wirh Tean Trubble to take care of some of your frustrations. He can straighten you out with a new ride so you won't be so bitter because you ride a antique.

As far as you being worried about my spelling I know you have female tendacies that is why I like you so let's arrange for you to come here to FL so we can have class together! :P
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Freemer wrote:Hey SOF - Join Kirsty and get a "Sponcer" as you spelled it......ROLFMAO

Get Jenny Craig you idiot - and stop trying the make that CR5 pull yur fat ass around - you are all spooge talk about people you know.... that did things and yet you have done nothing but post spooge here.


You sit at your PC waiting to see a post each day so you can write a book on it.

Call me an Idiot? I ride I don't spooge out info 2nd hand. All this tech garbly gook you post means nada to these dudes - they are sick of your spooged out long ass verbose "obversations"

You are JUST THAT - and Observer not a Rider - not if you count your PC chair as a RIDE.

BTW your post on Methanol use on a Liquid Cooled bike was entertaining at best....I have done it and it works....how many sand drags have you campaigned? How many hill races have you been in?

Oh, I forgot you KNOW SOMEONE that has..but you haven't done anything yourself but refer to your friends and peeps that are the most on the planet.

There are others out there like me that have 1st hand experience unlike you who sits at his PC and post like a Banshee all day and Nite - do you have a JOB?

Post some Pics of your BS adventures and endeavors to prove you are a hoon....after all it's all sugar and sand for you.

I am sure you have more saddle time in your PC chair than I have had saddle time on a CR5 in the past 23 yrs. Time for a Hemmoroid checkup I think.

My ass gets sore from riding (Baboon Ass!) not sitting at my PC spoogin' out "observations" and eating at the same time.

Try an IMS tank they hold enough Gas that maybe you could get back to camp - that is if your piston didn't sieze - the CR5 wasn't made to carry elephants around.

Have another box of twinkies and post more spooge

Shut your Pie Hole and Ride

:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
Freemer I think you need to make an appoinment wirh Tean Trubble to take care of some of your frustrations. He can straighten you out with a new ride so you won't be so bitter because you ride a antique.

As far as you being worried about my spelling I know you have female tendacies that is why I like you so let's arrange for you to come here to FL so we can have class together! :P
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Freemer wrote:Hey SOF - Join Kirsty and get a "Sponcer" as you spelled it......ROLFMAO

Get Jenny Craig you idiot - and stop trying the make that CR5 pull yur fat ass around - you are all spooge talk about people you know.... that did things and yet you have done nothing but post spooge here.


You sit at your PC waiting to see a post each day so you can write a book on it.

Call me an Idiot? I ride I don't spooge out info 2nd hand. All this tech garbly gook you post means nada to these dudes - they are sick of your spooged out long ass verbose "obversations"

You are JUST THAT - and Observer not a Rider - not if you count your PC chair as a RIDE.

BTW your post on Methanol use on a Liquid Cooled bike was entertaining at best....I have done it and it works....how many sand drags have you campaigned? How many hill races have you been in?

Oh, I forgot you KNOW SOMEONE that has..but you haven't done anything yourself but refer to your friends and peeps that are the most on the planet.

There are others out there like me that have 1st hand experience unlike you who sits at his PC and post like a Banshee all day and Nite - do you have a JOB?

Post some Pics of your BS adventures and endeavors to prove you are a hoon....after all it's all sugar and sand for you.

I am sure you have more saddle time in your PC chair than I have had saddle time on a CR5 in the past 23 yrs. Time for a Hemmoroid checkup I think.

My ass gets sore from riding (Baboon Ass!) not sitting at my PC spoogin' out "observations" and eating at the same time.

Try an IMS tank they hold enough Gas that maybe you could get back to camp - that is if your piston didn't sieze - the CR5 wasn't made to carry elephants around.

Have another box of twinkies and post more spooge

Shut your Pie Hole and Ride

:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
Freemer I think you need to make an appoinment wirh Tean Trubble to take care of some of your frustrations. He can straighten you out with a new ride so you won't be so bitter because you ride a antique.

As far as you being worried about my spelling I know you have female tendacies that is why I like you so let's arrange for you to come here to FL so we can have class together! :P
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NA CR500AF wrote:I bilt a saber 500 on a 01 cr 250 case, and put in the 01 frame. It was faster than the cr 500, But you had to be on the pipe like a 250 and you get a weakend of riding and it blows up. So its fun for the hill But anything else it sucks.
What blew up on it, Kalvin was leading me to believe the bike had superior cooling and the reliability top end wise was good. I know it would not be in the realm of a 500 CR because it has way less piston support and turns more R's but I did not want a 250 bottom end because they are not nearly as tough a Cr5 bottom.

The CR 500 bottom end has a great rep for being able once it is cryoed and under cut to handle big HP pretty good! I can see it has more of a upper rpm curve but mine is for street use.

I would never ever attempt to make a package like that for my own personal off road bike. I lik'em slightly ported and a little more compression than stock with a stock pipe..
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"Tean Trubble"?

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Slow Old Spooge "Him Sit'Um In Chair and SPOOGE"

Bold as you are in your statements you have no real 1st hand experience to back up all your spooge you are allowing to be seen here. You know almost nothing yet you know everything ... 2nd hand ...

Why don't you come to Cali and get yur ass whooped in the dunes and stop posting 2nd hand BS - I have lived it - Mr. "Suge Nite"


LOL

Come get yur ass beat bad in the Dunes you think U know everyone and everybody and are an authority on all thinkgs related - met your kind before - arm chair pilot you are - hehe
Slow Old Man - "HIM SIT IN CHAIR AND SPOOGE "


Told ya dudes - he'd come back with a BOOK -

Got a publisher for that cyote crap you keep spewing bro?

Live to Ride - not an arm chair 2nd hand PILOT

Post Pics of YOU and YOUR BIKES and YOUR TROPHIES?


Hehe ain't gona happen


Freemer - Shut Yur Pie Hole And Ride Dude

F'N CR5 W/AN Air Jug on Alky Come ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 44 W/No NEEDLE? HUH? must be from STARTREK
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Old SLo Man - STOP IT


You are FULL OF Rheteroic man


Please


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Freemer I thought I was the biggest A$$hole on this site , I was mistaken there are 2. I think we really should hook up we would make a great couple, of course you would be my bitch! :wink:
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ou812 wrote:Personally I would not want a 80's frame for SM, the ones I've seen have done some nasty stuff at speed for no reason. I picked up a mint 2000 roller from a guy going to the AF deal. It was cheap and had tons of spares with it and I had a extra 87 motor waiting. 87's rip good right out of the box.

SM's have a habit of front end chatter that is hard to deal with, going from a 17x 3.50 to a 16.5 x3.5 front helps quite a bit but they still like to tuck with little warning, the steelies seem to flex a little just before this point and let you know, were as the AF's don't do that, no warning just boom your gone atleast with a 500 power plant. The AF is more nimble but feels twichy unlike the steelie. You must remeber neither one was ment to run with super soft compound slicks at 18 to 20 pounds. But setup is differant with the 500 power plant in both types of frame compared to the 450's.
That is the thing my 88 with me on it does not tuck my 97 did bad and it slides under power way better than my AF's or newer steelie. I guess it really is who is on it. Guy's used to complain about head shake on thses bikes and I go 90 and never get a hint of it.

OH Yaa what kind of AF are you talking about, I mean model?

There are alot of variables and it goes to show rider size, weight and distrbution play alot as well. I always liked the KX 500 but I guess my stature has alot to do with it.

It makes me realize in certain conditions being a sow can help keep the bike hooked up.

Thanks for returning my responce!
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This whole headshake thing is someting thats been confusing me, Me on an '02 250 and my bro on the '04 250 always felt like the bikes rode loose, even looser than the 00's. Then once we rode the 500's we realized just how bad those af frames did headshake, Dad got on the 250 after having a flat on the 00' steel 500, and had to switch with my bro to get back on the steel bikes because the af without serious commitment would want to dammn near slap the bars stop to stop.

I dont know what you guys have found for handling on sm tracks or anything, but on the Horse track in Miami, Manitoba that is 1 mile long, there is no possible way you can get the af with a 250 in it to do anything remotely close to handle in the corners.
I know it is a little underpowered for a flattrack loose dirt track, but between dad, my bro and I we all felt that cranking down the rear shock on the '88 and givin her hell was alot more cooperative in the corners. Pretty much set her up going in and point it at where you want out and she goes there. the '91 and '00 500's just didnt set up.

They all have the same tires, the '88 suspension was done a long time ago, the '91 is stock, the '00 has a mickelson (or however its spelled) suspension. The '02 and '04 250's are stock aswell.

In a loose field, a rut, or sandy crap I would absolutely ride my '88 500 for handling over the other bikes.

Its got a completely different feel to it to when dooing a wheelie or anything. You can feel that suspension squat, rest and there is a sweetspot it comes into where a little throttle and that thing will sit still with the front tire 2ft off the ground for 1/2 to 3/4 mile effortlessly. I cant find the spot to sit that '91 at, and the 02' 250 is an absolutely different machine.

If it wasnt for the '88 beeing such a chunk to find body for and that hot leg, i'd likely stick with that bike instead of trying to get it into a different frame.
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Roostius_Maximus wrote:This whole headshake thing is someting thats been confusing me, Me on an '02 250 and my bro on the '04 250 always felt like the bikes rode loose, even looser than the 00's. Then once we rode the 500's we realized just how bad those af frames did headshake, Dad got on the 250 after having a flat on the 00' steel 500, and had to switch with my bro to get back on the steel bikes because the af without serious commitment would want to dammn near slap the bars stop to stop.

I dont know what you guys have found for handling on sm tracks or anything, but on the Horse track in Miami, Manitoba that is 1 mile long, there is no possible way you can get the af with a 250 in it to do anything remotely close to handle in the corners.
I know it is a little underpowered for a flattrack loose dirt track, but between dad, my bro and I we all felt that cranking down the rear shock on the '88 and givin her hell was alot more cooperative in the corners. Pretty much set her up going in and point it at where you want out and she goes there. the '91 and '00 500's just didnt set up.

They all have the same tires, the '88 suspension was done a long time ago, the '91 is stock, the '00 has a mickelson (or however its spelled) suspension. The '02 and '04 250's are stock aswell.

In a loose field, a rut, or sandy crap I would absolutely ride my '88 500 for handling over the other bikes.

Its got a completely different feel to it to when dooing a wheelie or anything. You can feel that suspension squat, rest and there is a sweetspot it comes into where a little throttle and that thing will sit still with the front tire 2ft off the ground for 1/2 to 3/4 mile effortlessly. I cant find the spot to sit that '91 at, and the 02' 250 is an absolutely different machine.

If it wasnt for the '88 beeing such a chunk to find body for and that hot leg, i'd likely stick with that bike instead of trying to get it into a different frame.
You should take it and try and update something s on it. Go on Ebay and try and get what you can.

it may be the Fla turf, I sold my 88 but fortunately after I built my Gen 3 CRF 450 500 and realized how great that bike is I bought enougb parts to build a few more chassis.

It inspires confidence at high speed sliding around that the others just cannot touch and if you try to ride them like that you will go tot he hospital quick. Most of it has to do with the long wheel base and the front end is kicked out and the old porlink was way ahead of it's time in putting the power down but the bike has the turning raidus of a truck.

You cannot have it all that is why I have well a few bikes but what good are they if they are in pieces and I do not ride them.

I learned along time ago when you find a bike that does something brilliant you keep it and the 87 n 88 in my opinion for certain things are brilliant!

Rick Johnsons favorite bike I believe even over the 87 250.
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"it may be the Fla turf" ?
If you mean florida, I have no idea how guys find anywhere to ride there, just way off of what I'm used to i guess.


My buddies are always crowing about how my '88 looks like an old chunk, but dammn is it fast in the valley compared to their 450's!
We've got all kinds of terrain here, But im not in Miami fla, I'm in Miami, Manitoba, Canada. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q ... 9&t=h&z=16

Besides our Engine business (www.millarengines.com), at our 118 year old family Farm we seed 6800 acres, and own 2800 more thats valley and bush. We've got everything from tack clay, bentonite, to sand, and a motocross track on my driveway, that all the pro riders come to practice at before the nationals in Morden (my lil cousin Ryan Millar #501 Is a KTM Team Rider and missed the trip to england with the team because insurence there requires you to be 16 and he only turned 15 on feb 15th).

The pro guys like the track so much they'd like to see it on the circuit, and say its the best outdoor track in Canada. In 4 stories from the febuary Racer-X magazine there is pictures from the practice day at my place. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q ... 5&t=h&z=18to the left of the track is my place, 1/2 mile left is dads, another 1/2 mile and uncle, and to the right of the track is our main farm.
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I am totally jealouse, you are very lucky!
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Roostius_Maximus wrote:Make a poll of who wants an aftermarket jug, if there seems to be enough i'll see what i can get made, I have a local foundary dooing some work for me, also an Australian company making me 350 chevy blocks in aluminum and cast, and some China/Jap, custom casting guys dooing things aswell. If theres a big call for it like 150-200 cyls or more I can see it beeing a possibility.


I'd seen a dude at the fordville hillclimb with a big aftermarket cyl that guys told me was a sidecar part, never seen pictures since, but if anyone can come up with some i'd like to see it!
I would like a after market cylinder but one is already done it just needs to be modifeid to fit a Cr 500 bottom. Go look at the saber tooth 500 TRX 250 cylinder. 103 HP methanol.
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Roostius_Maximus wrote:"it may be the Fla turf" ?
If you mean florida, I have no idea how guys find anywhere to ride there, just way off of what I'm used to i guess.


My buddies are always crowing about how my '88 looks like an old chunk, but dammn is it fast in the valley compared to their 450's!
We've got all kinds of terrain here, But im not in Miami fla, I'm in Miami, Manitoba, Canada. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q ... 9&t=h&z=16

Besides our Engine business (www.millarengines.com), at our 118 year old family Farm we seed 6800 acres, and own 2800 more thats valley and bush. We've got everything from tack clay, bentonite, to sand, and a motocross track on my driveway, that all the pro riders come to practice at before the nationals in Morden (my lil cousin Ryan Millar #501 Is a KTM Team Rider and missed the trip to england with the team because insurence there requires you to be 16 and he only turned 15 on feb 15th).

The pro guys like the track so much they'd like to see it on the circuit, and say its the best outdoor track in Canada. In 4 stories from the febuary Racer-X magazine there is pictures from the practice day at my place. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q ... 5&t=h&z=18to the left of the track is my place, 1/2 mile left is dads, another 1/2 mile and uncle, and to the right of the track is our main farm.
I will tell you some of the best things to do to that bike that I know of, put a newer style rear wheel on it the hub is about a pound lighter you can feel it big difference and put the bigger rear rotor with bracket from the newer rear wheel from a CR 125 or 250 98 99 year. Any whhel 1990 to 1999 is lighter fron a 250 or 500 the 89's were to but were known to break.

What you are seeing is that in motorcycling there are is a need for 2 types of chassis the XR was never it.

The new CR or CRF is vastly superior IMO for hard core jump a hundred feet moto head but off road people do not realize Honda made their best bikes 20 years ago in alot of ways.

A pro moto xer on a serious track would tie your 88 bike in a knot but for offroading that thing is one of the finest machines ever made.
KTM is trying to fill the nitch which is good.

There should be a off road model bikes based on a similar design to your 88 and a moto x version made like a brick chit house for motohead action.

You are seeeing what a pro motoxer needs and what you need are 2 different things.

You should see about getting more parts putting a newer syle front end on it and see how far you can take it. I think it is woth it.

The bike is a blast to ride period!
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SLow Old and Compensates with Spooge - U got BANNED I DID NOT

Spooge On dude - I lived my dream - you are an armchair pilot with many years of spooge under your belt and no actual experience like I have - so sad - You are in your own prison find some bitch that loves ya.

Old Spooge Wrote "hey I know some that did things ...." hehe " but YOU NEVER DID ANYTHING - no pics to backup your stuff at all... haven't seen one pic of you - Fat ass unless you are at the back of the pack on a Quadzilla Glamis ride with your ass crack showing last in line ............that is called riders plumbers butt .........

"In My Great Opionion"

Arm Chair Enthusiast - what have YOU DONE

Don't eat that yellow snow that's where the Husky's Go

You are full of yourself and you are an armchair warrior



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damn Freemer... relax a little dude, everyone is entitled to an opinion here, but you are acting like a little kid with the name calling. We're a bunch of grown men here, act accordingly.
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