ou812 wrote:Mine is steel with a 16.5 front and I can kick butt on the 2 local AF 500's because unlike a roadrace bike, a SM needs a certian amount of give (flex) The AF's are less forgiving, that why most stay with spokes not mags. Second almost all SM riding is done at low corner speeds 5 to 50 mph. I think if you got out on a track set up for SM you will find power ain't the issue, even if you are blinding fast the pack will kill you on most of the course. like any road racing the key is drive and this is were the 500 is very weak, 450's are on the gas at the apex with the peg on the ground, even with a bone stock 500 trying to drive at the apex will spit you off faster then you can say "Oh Shit". What your talking about would only make that condition worse.
Also the 500 has no engine braking ,again this puts you in a worse position the a 4 banger which can set up for the corner in a vastly better fashion by what is known to most as "backing it in".
On the topic of 500 GP bikes that does not trans late to a SM 500 single. GP 500 bikes were multi cylinders with a way wider spread of power and vastly better ability to tune for each track it ran on, also in the modern era GP 500's were changed to "Big Bang" engines at a cost to HP but while having less HP they picked up better drive which in turn produced faster lap time. The lesson leanered better drive is faster then big HP numbers. Lastly the skill need to make a 500 GP bike go fast was incerdible, it took almost super human skill to ride one at a competitive lap time. Case in point, The best 2 or 3 riders that wrote for mags Mat Oxaly and others and tested true GP bikes were faster on lap times on 250's then they were on the 500's they would test at the end of each season.
But what you appear to want is fine as a great shits and gigles bike.
Actually I do not know anything about super moto, There is or was a track down the road in Ocala where they run. I just call it that but I am after more of a bike that can keep up with the sporties to a 1/8 or a 1/4 mile in excelleration and out handle them by a good bit. Road bikes are not my forte at all I am now just learning about them.
You do not seem to think it can do that? I know i cannot push it to the limit but what about a good rider. A 450 CRF is slow as hell but probably the fastest way to race block to block on back streets?
I can set my 04 CRF 450 back up as a back street block racer that is what i am looking for. Is that superior to a Cr 500 for that?
I gave up on the Saber but maybe Mcoy can pull it off.
I sold the motor in my 04 CRF 450 should I just go on ebay do the buy it now and put it back as a tagged super moto? I just ask because I am scared to blow one up. They are ready for the trash after that!
Thankyou for your reply, I appreciate your info alot. I am not 330 but 300 and I need alot of motor to go.
I want to talk to you on the issue of flex but i do not have time at the momment. again thankyou!