Service Hondas "Improved Ignition" vs OEM

bigpower · Post by **bigpower** » February 4th, 2008, 5:49 pm

AlisoBob wrote:The S/H ignition ( made by Electrosport by the way) was originally designed for electric start applications. In a kick start situation it appears its hard to start judging from all the complaints the unit has received.... period.

Not a junk product, just a mis-applied one.

He does stand behind the product very well. Everyone I know who has asked for a replacement unit has received one.

That does not mean that the replacements have worked any better though.

Ok, and the distributor wasn't aware of this? Any bike guy worth his weight would know this, or would figure this out in the development phase.

The components aren't bad, but really, this gremlin should never had made it past the first testing.

Believe me, I wouldn't want to be putting out for that kind of warranty.

Post by **AlisoBob** » February 4th, 2008, 5:56 pm

bigpower wrote:.... this gremlin should never had made it past the first testing.

Yup.

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » February 4th, 2008, 6:48 pm

is the only reason guys are running the S/H to use the lights? i still havent understood what the reason for using it is

Ported&Polished · Post by **Ported&Polished** » February 4th, 2008, 7:00 pm

Some people use it without lights. They use it because the cr500 has to strong a hit off the bottom, and they want less wheel spin. Of course, they already make something for that, it's called a xr250.

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » February 4th, 2008, 7:07 pm

Ported&Polished wrote:Some people use it without lights. They use it because the cr500 has to strong a hit off the bottom, and they want less wheel spin. Of course, they already make something for that, it's called a xr250.

dude i hear you loud and clear. one of lifes big mysteries- buy one of the fastest dirt bikes ever made then try to tame it done.

bigpower · Post by **bigpower** » February 4th, 2008, 7:15 pm

Just doing a bit more reading on the subject on the links to the other world, and it has just hit me..............

I'm willing to bet that we start seeing more than a few "I broke my rightside case at the kicker" posts from some of the new ignition owners.

The Honda is not a bike you want to kick the shit out of like that, the cases are weak in that area.

RJacks with his user error. Thats bullshit if you never had a problemo starting before using all the acceptable methods. Spit or swallow......shheesh.

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » February 4th, 2008, 7:18 pm

i sure would like to see a map of that S/H unit. from what everyone says about it backfiring it seems clear it must have alot more advance in the timing right from the get go, but i dont understand why. sure would be nice to talk to the dude that designed it and see what his thinking was

M.F.D.B. · Post by **M.F.D.B.** » February 4th, 2008, 7:21 pm

bigpower wrote:RJacks with his user error. Thats bullshit if you never had a problemo starting before using all the acceptable methods. Spit or swallow......shheesh.

Zactly, did you read my response to his??

bigpower · Post by **bigpower** » February 4th, 2008, 7:29 pm

M.F.D.B. wrote:
bigpower wrote:RJacks with his user error. Thats bullshit if you never had a problemo starting before using all the acceptable methods. Spit or swallow......shheesh.
Zactly, did you read my response to his??

Yessir

3rd gear, choke on, rock back and forth 20 times

Neutral, piston to top dead, left foot on ground, right foot, firm kick

Badinga ding ding

Shouldn't be anymore cut and dried with that, no matter what

M.F.D.B. · Post by **M.F.D.B.** » February 4th, 2008, 8:54 pm

bigpower wrote:
M.F.D.B. wrote:
bigpower wrote:RJacks with his user error. Thats bullshit if you never had a problemo starting before using all the acceptable methods. Spit or swallow......shheesh.
Zactly, did you read my response to his??
Yessir

3rd gear, choke on, rock back and forth 20 times

Neutral, piston to top dead, left foot on ground, right foot, firm kick

Badinga ding ding

Shouldn't be anymore cut and dried with that, no matter what

Thats more work the i do. Hit the kill sissy kick a few kicks, let of the kill, proper kick...music...

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » February 4th, 2008, 9:00 pm

"www.antirjacks/servicehonda.com" HAHAHAHAHHAHA
holy shit, that is hillarious! Because after all, we don't do anything productive here and definitly are not a huge (in some cases the only) resource for cr500 and a/f conversion information... PPSSSHH, we've definitly got nothing better to do than bash on rjacks and SH all willie nillie.

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » February 4th, 2008, 9:03 pm

Ported&Polished wrote:Some people use it without lights. They use it because the cr500 has to strong a hit off the bottom, and they want less wheel spin. Of course, they already make something for that, it's called a xr250.

you know a gen-1 250 ignition will bolt on and that digital cdi was programmed to run some sort of simple traction control. Bolt that on and rub your vag all the way to the finish line with fewer problems than that SH POS.

M.F.D.B. · Post by **M.F.D.B.** » February 4th, 2008, 9:12 pm

dannygraves wrote: "www.antirjacks/servicehonda.com" HAHAHAHAHHAHA

Did I miss something??

M.F.D.B. · Post by **M.F.D.B.** » February 4th, 2008, 9:14 pm

dannygraves wrote: Bolt that on a rub your vag all the way to the finish line with fewer problems than that SH POS.

I dont car who you are thats funnay!!

Post by **AlisoBob** » February 4th, 2008, 9:46 pm

dannygraves wrote: "www.antirjacks/servicehonda.com" HAHAHAHAHHAHA

Rjerks caught again...... Lying out his ass....

Rjerks wrote:...And no Service Honda doesn't pay me or anything.....

From his Sponsorhouse blog....

Rjerks wrote:I would also like to thank AJ Waggoner from Service Honda, and Service Honda of Hammond, IN for the help I have received this year.

Nigga' Pleeeeze.....

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » February 4th, 2008, 9:48 pm

M.F.D.B. wrote:
dannygraves wrote: "www.antirjacks/servicehonda.com" HAHAHAHAHHAHA
Did I miss something??

rjacks' response to your comment.
"For those of you from elsewhere who seem to think I don't know what I am talking about. There are plenty of naysayers who base their opinions on what they hear, but none have never ever dealt or talked with me. Just jumping on the bandwagon. Get some lives guys. You should rename your site to www.antirjacks258/servicehonda.com "

M.F.D.B. · Post by **M.F.D.B.** » February 4th, 2008, 11:18 pm

Thats weird I never got an email notification of response...

sabreguy · Post by **sabreguy** » February 5th, 2008, 5:43 am

M.F.D.B. wrote:Thats weird I never got an email notification of response...

maybe you have been "BANNED"?

M.F.D.B. · Post by **M.F.D.B.** » February 5th, 2008, 9:19 am

sabreguy wrote:
M.F.D.B. wrote:Thats weird I never got an email notification of response...
maybe you have been "BANNED"?

OH NO!! Say it aint SO!!

If so, does this mean im not COOL anymore??

bigpower · Post by **bigpower** » February 5th, 2008, 2:48 pm

dannygraves wrote: "For those of you from elsewhere who seem to think I don't know what I am talking about. There are plenty of naysayers who base their opinions on what they hear, but none have never ever dealt or talked with me. Just jumping on the bandwagon. Get some lives guys. You should rename your site to www.antirjacks258/servicehonda.com "

Well, I have dealt with him, and hes a rat, in my book.

You don't take someone elses ideas and use it for your own personal gain, period!

Anyhoo, this thread was about that jacked up ignition, not a jacked up jack off.

Any of you guys have an idea in your head, and you need it machined or need advice, or if you want a real world quote to keep your local machinist honest, call me.
Just don't take someone elses shit and try to line your pockets, or I'll MF ya, too!

Carry on my wayward sons

BTW, everything that assmunch knows about the bigblocker is what he learned from you guys. And if any of you seen the pics of the hack job Gen III he started and send him your suspension, the shit you grow sure makes you stupider than the shit I grow.

Caseys500 · Post by **Caseys500** » February 7th, 2008, 8:58 pm

anyone want to send a SH one that didnt work? I have been talking to my boss and he says it shouldnt be too hard for one to be devised? even just a tightly coiled better quality lighting coil. I think there is a pretty big niche for someone to produce a good one. I would easily pay $200 for a system that was between 75W and 100W. Right now it is either all or nothing....25-45W or SH. Eline doesnt have anymore, Baja nope....im lost. The only reason why I want one is for lighting. If anyone knows where I can get an eline let me know...that is my first choice. I figure there has to be a dealership somewhere that has one stashed and forgotten.

I want to street legalize my bike and tear it up!

ISBB · Post by **ISBB** » February 7th, 2008, 9:02 pm

maybe get a e-line and have rickystator rewind it for mo juice?

M.F.D.B. · Post by **M.F.D.B.** » February 7th, 2008, 9:04 pm

ISBB wrote:maybe get a e-line and have rickystator rewind it for mo juice?

The weak link is the stock flywheel. The Electrosport/Moose coil is as big as will fit under the stock flywheel. You need stronger magnets...

Post by **AlisoBob** » February 8th, 2008, 6:00 am

http://cr500riders.com/cgi/yabb/YaBB.pl ... 8439/66#66

It1bird wrote: The factory ignition is a dream to start

Post by **AlisoBob** » February 8th, 2008, 6:03 am

Caseys500 wrote:I think there is a pretty big niche for someone to produce a good one. I would easily pay $200 for a system that was between 75W and 100W.

Yup, I'm looking into it...

BannedCR500Riders.com

Service Hondas "Improved Ignition" vs OEM