dubious01 wrote:You guys are way off topic.
RSSS put a very nice effort into supplying infop and now your talking about M1000, and twin cr500's.... which will never make 200 HP
Justa fuckin dream, and uneducated one at that.
come on,
jeez no wonder a guy spends hours and hours sifting through meaningless posts and bullshit to find the odd mediocre morsel of information...
where is the spam incinerator, I'd like to wipe the last page right off this thread.
Geez Dubious - you've just contribute your 'bit' of , what you'd call 'uneducated' opinion on the debate these blokes are having.
I find it hilarious that people don't think a 500 2t single could nudge or get over 100HP, and therefore a twin couldn't get over 200 HP.
Check out the 'Tularis' sometime - smaller than a 1000, yet I do think it would be calculated out , as a 1000, at over 200HP in in later guises - I think it was damned close as a 800 + capacity. And it was very 'rideable'.
Therein is the key - certainly a 500 single 2t could be made to make 100HP.
But it sure as hell wouldn't be very rideable, nor would it last long. For an extreme example, I don't think my brothers Keith Black engine (set with conservative supercharger settings - he's not rich- it's a consistent 7 second car in bracket racing - whatever that is.....
) from his drag car would be very driveable on the road, and I don't think it would last long as a road car engine.
Dave Thorpe, in a column he did in Dirt Bike Rider, for some years, would write about how, each year the Honda engineers would present him with massively powered 500s. Which the engineers would be happily saying they had acheived 90+ HP . He'd try them , and would work it back to something rideable - to my hazy recollection, he favoured a mid 70hp (at the crank), 4 and sometimes, 3 speeder, set up.
Check out the power outputs of the current single cylinder 125s in GPs, which are about to be made extinct (another fucking crime by the FIM / Honda). It will surprise some of you - and they are still useable, and last at least (well , the little blighters are intended to.......) the length of a GP. If the tuners of those little suckers were handed instructions of "give us Max power, that will last us [ whatever 'short' amount of time you wanted ], it would give a number that would make a breathed on 500 running on good race fuel a real fright up top. But it would be a bitch to even get moving.
Actually, I think the little screamers already Do make outright power readings that rival breathed on 500s
All I ever try to achieve from my 500, is continually smoothing / spreading the power, for my primarily single track / tight course and rare MX use. I haven't got much need to try get any more up top.