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Tharrell wrote:Here we go again.
No, most veterans do not prefer to avoid war at all costs.
We prefer to get the fucking job done.
Why in the hell are YOU responding to an American issue and you KNOW is very dear to our hearts?
Why don't you mind your own business?
This issue is OURS and you have no right to even comment on it.
I know the answer already.
YOU ARE A FUCKING TROLL.
You will no doubt post numerous times in a row just like you always do.
I don't care if you ride a 500 period.
I just don't fucking like you man.
Just walk away asshole.
No sport, it is OUR bloody issue as well.Tharrell wrote:Here we go again.
No, most veterans do not prefer to avoid war at all costs.
We prefer to get the fucking job done.
Why in the hell are YOU responding to an American issue and you KNOW is very dear to our hearts?
Why don't you mind your own business?
This issue is OURS and you have no right to even comment on it.
I know the answer already.
YOU ARE A FUCKING TROLL.
You will no doubt post numerous times in a row just like you always do.
I don't care if you ride a 500 period.
I just don't fucking like you man.
Just walk away asshole.
thestuz wrote:Tharrell wrote:Here we go again.
No, most veterans do not prefer to avoid war at all costs.
We prefer to get the fucking job done.
Why in the hell are YOU responding to an American issue and you KNOW is very dear to our hearts?
Why don't you mind your own business?
This issue is OURS and you have no right to even comment on it.
I know the answer already.
YOU ARE A FUCKING TROLL.
You will no doubt post numerous times in a row just like you always do.
I don't care if you ride a 500 period.
I just don't fucking like you man.
Just walk away asshole.
yeah i understand you do want to get the job done. me too, but what is the fucking job over there anymore?it keeps fkn changing every month.
does anyone still know wtf it is?
the war on terror is global, australia is fighting in it and paying full price too.so i kinda do have a legit interest/comment.unfortunatly, we wont be smart enough to get out untill you guys do.
you dont have to like me mate, means fuck all to me over here.im just doin posts out of curiosity cos i like to see how you ameros tick.( had to see if you were all like george.w., in your case i was right)
i just figured instead of handing out faggot arsed hand shakes,and keep sending them back. we could possibly end the war, save trillions, and bring them home safe?
i heard it was something like 5 marines suicide every week over in fort hood cos they cant deal with going back over there.... that says something
bearorso wrote:No sport, it is OUR bloody issue as well.Tharrell wrote:Here we go again.
No, most veterans do not prefer to avoid war at all costs.
We prefer to get the fucking job done.
Why in the hell are YOU responding to an American issue and you KNOW is very dear to our hearts?
Why don't you mind your own business?
This issue is OURS and you have no right to even comment on it.
I know the answer already.
YOU ARE A FUCKING TROLL.
You will no doubt post numerous times in a row just like you always do.
I don't care if you ride a 500 period.
I just don't fucking like you man.
Just walk away asshole.
Look to who your bloody allies are, and see that they Are being maimed and Are dieing during the same campaign.
I have friends in Afghanistan, and Iraq. Mainly in the RAAF, but a young man that I held as a baby, and cared for and loved as he grew up, who calls me Uncle Bear, is an SAS officer currently serving deployment in Afghanistan.
Pull you head out of the bloody sand.
This Is Not just an American thing.
I don't get involved in much of this toing and froing - I tend to see validity in most peoples views, as well as seeing, what I think, stupidity in many peoples views. On every side of the arguement.
Perhaps you have been unaware, or worse, don't give a fuck about the other allies that are doing a very hard and dangerous job, side by side with the USA.
What you wrote is utterly offensive to those of us who have been , consistently, allies of your country, through good and bad times.
As for Taylor89, come to Oz, sprout that shit, and you'll rapidly get the shit kicked out of you. And we have never been 'disarmed'. We just don't have as much gun ownership as you blokes - even well before a few campaigns / amnesties / buy backs run as knee jerk reactions to our, thankfully, rare gun rampages by nutters here. I'm a marksman - I love the enginneering applied to weapons, but don't need to have assault weapons.
wow you are retarded. bet you can get a gun over there in no time flat if you have a big wad of cash and a connection to the black market......if the psychos want a gun, they will get it.thestuz wrote:first of all, my point is that serving soldiers should get more respect than hugs and hand shakes.
there lives are more valuable than to send them off fighting wars thet dont have to be fought let me make that clear.
if we really cared about our soldiers then we would bring them home from those futile wars. not make half arsed hand shakes to make them feel better about it all. jmo.
taylor, our country never wanted to go to iraq... 75% of the population opposed it. but in true democratic fassion, our leasder took us there anyway.
it was an unjust, illegal war not sanctioned by the u.n. on a country that had nothing to do with 911.
my information about the suicide rate at ft hood comes from an delisted ameriand medic who untill two weeks ago, i used to work with. that is the stats he told me.might be lower now the wars winding up.
and the reason yoiur enlistment is so high is because of the financial situation your country is in. in some states, its the only source of employment going, not because they want to go and fighting.im sure they would much prefer to be building new roads in america than dropping $1000,000 a piece bombs in iraq.
you are right about ob "briefly" increasing troop numbers. this appears to be one last roll of the dice to try fix the mess that has been made. the trouble with america, is that they seem to create terrorism where ever they go.iraq never had terrorism before "we" "invaded"
it is to be noted that ob is pulling all combat forces from iraq within a year, despite the privi intell you conclude too.
and the afghan war is being scaled back as the u.s. army tries "negotiate" with the taliban for a solution. in some cases, taliban are being paid to change sides lol. same people, different uniform. pretty far from a victory, go figure?
as for your country being the saviour of mankind, and freeing/liberating more countries and helping, what a load of shit.
you stayed out of ww1 and refused to help britain or australia during the first few years of ww2. it was only untill you were bombed by the japanese that you bothered to enter. and only during the final stages of ww2, helped in europe.
russia spilt more blood and suffered more losses than you. but they dont complain.
as for assault rifles, im kinda glad we dont have them here. yeah i had to surrender my semi auto. later i also lost my gun licence for minor assault. but do i miss guns? not really. and its good to know not every psycho has access to them now.
you need an assault rifle to kill a gopher?
your right, guns dont kill people, people kill people.NightBiker07 wrote:I have an assault rifle.
If the people arent armed to the teeth, what happens WHEN (not if) the government comes after us? we are defenseless. armed people are citizens. unarmed people are subjects.
as for rampaging psychos.....theres no way to avoid it. they will ALWAYS be able to get the tools for their rampage. so wouldnt you rather being able to have LEGAL access to the same weapons so you can protect yourself?
NightBiker07 wrote:wow you are retarded. bet you can get a gun over there in no time flat if you have a big wad of cash and a connection to the black market......if the psychos want a gun, they will get it.thestuz wrote:first of all, my point is that serving soldiers should get more respect than hugs and hand shakes.
there lives are more valuable than to send them off fighting wars thet dont have to be fought let me make that clear.
if we really cared about our soldiers then we would bring them home from those futile wars. not make half arsed hand shakes to make them feel better about it all. jmo.
taylor, our country never wanted to go to iraq... 75% of the population opposed it. but in true democratic fassion, our leasder took us there anyway.
it was an unjust, illegal war not sanctioned by the u.n. on a country that had nothing to do with 911.
my information about the suicide rate at ft hood comes from an delisted ameriand medic who untill two weeks ago, i used to work with. that is the stats he told me.might be lower now the wars winding up.
and the reason yoiur enlistment is so high is because of the financial situation your country is in. in some states, its the only source of employment going, not because they want to go and fighting.im sure they would much prefer to be building new roads in america than dropping $1000,000 a piece bombs in iraq.
you are right about ob "briefly" increasing troop numbers. this appears to be one last roll of the dice to try fix the mess that has been made. the trouble with america, is that they seem to create terrorism where ever they go.iraq never had terrorism before "we" "invaded"
it is to be noted that ob is pulling all combat forces from iraq within a year, despite the privi intell you conclude too.
and the afghan war is being scaled back as the u.s. army tries "negotiate" with the taliban for a solution. in some cases, taliban are being paid to change sides lol. same people, different uniform. pretty far from a victory, go figure?
as for your country being the saviour of mankind, and freeing/liberating more countries and helping, what a load of shit.
you stayed out of ww1 and refused to help britain or australia during the first few years of ww2. it was only untill you were bombed by the japanese that you bothered to enter. and only during the final stages of ww2, helped in europe.
russia spilt more blood and suffered more losses than you. but they dont complain.
as for assault rifles, im kinda glad we dont have them here. yeah i had to surrender my semi auto. later i also lost my gun licence for minor assault. but do i miss guns? not really. and its good to know not every psycho has access to them now.
you need an assault rifle to kill a gopher?
ok, so eliminate EVERY CIVILIAN GUN around, none on the black market, right? so what happens when the government gets out of control and "we the people" cant resist? Those who deny that it can and will happen are only doomed to repeat history.......
"illegal war"? that is the most retarded dumbfuck thing i have ever heard. its fucking WAR not a game of chess.
Please read And try to comprehend what I actually wrote.Tayler89 wrote:bearorso wrote:No sport, it is OUR bloody issue as well.Tharrell wrote:Here we go again.
No, most veterans do not prefer to avoid war at all costs.
We prefer to get the fucking job done.
Why in the hell are YOU responding to an American issue and you KNOW is very dear to our hearts?
Why don't you mind your own business?
This issue is OURS and you have no right to even comment on it.
I know the answer already.
YOU ARE A FUCKING TROLL.
You will no doubt post numerous times in a row just like you always do.
I don't care if you ride a 500 period.
I just don't fucking like you man.
Just walk away asshole.
Look to who your bloody allies are, and see that they Are being maimed and Are dieing during the same campaign.
I have friends in Afghanistan, and Iraq. Mainly in the RAAF, but a young man that I held as a baby, and cared for and loved as he grew up, who calls me Uncle Bear, is an SAS officer currently serving deployment in Afghanistan.
Pull you head out of the bloody sand.
This Is Not just an American thing.
I don't get involved in much of this toing and froing - I tend to see validity in most peoples views, as well as seeing, what I think, stupidity in many peoples views. On every side of the arguement.
Perhaps you have been unaware, or worse, don't give a fuck about the other allies that are doing a very hard and dangerous job, side by side with the USA.
What you wrote is utterly offensive to those of us who have been , consistently, allies of your country, through good and bad times.
As for Taylor89, come to Oz, sprout that shit, and you'll rapidly get the shit kicked out of you. And we have never been 'disarmed'. We just don't have as much gun ownership as you blokes - even well before a few campaigns / amnesties / buy backs run as knee jerk reactions to our, thankfully, rare gun rampages by nutters here. I'm a marksman - I love the enginneering applied to weapons, but don't need to have assault weapons.
Listen, If you don't like being involved in the war, pressure your govt to get out. Don't presume to tell us what to do, we are protecting ourselves and our interests.....which we have a right to do.
As for our allies being killed and maimed….. Can you name one civilization in the history of the world that has spent more money, blood, and resources liberating and saving people from tyranny than America? You can't legitimately because there isn't one....not even close.
You refuse to see the big picture about what America stands for and the selfless sacrifices we make for others. You see a few things you don't like or may be uninformed about and instantly want to assume the worst. You may be a person that absolutely doesn't believe there is any reason for war, but keep in mind that it is countries like America that are responsible for the fact that you are not living in tyranny......Even though the socialist ideals that your country is beginning to embrace is a self inflicted type of tyranny....
I happen to use my "Assault Rifle" for hunting gophers. Does that still make it an assault rifle? I suppose it does if you are a gopher. If you love the engineering applied to weapons then I'm sure you would find "Assault Rifles" very interesting. There is nothing wrong with owning one simply because you find it cool....why is it that people believe that because someone wants one, then they must be wanting to kill people or have evil intentions? Your people have obviously given the govt the authority to make that determination for them......not my cup of tea, I'll take America.
When I was a kid in school studying Geography and other countries, the one I was most intrigued with and wanted to go to was yours. Your country seemed like a group of tough SOB's that took no shit and didn’t compromise their principles. Now, based on what I hear and read, you have nothing I am interested in.....And if Stuz is any indication of what Oz people are like and believe in, I either misinterpreted what your country was like in the first place, or you have compromised your principles and allowed your govt to remove your liberties. I would likely get my ass kicked but I call it like I see it.