the thread was about whether the dealer could telkl you were running a tune and if they would do anything about it.emission equipment removal and or tampering with
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Quote:Warnings serve as a reminder to you of the forum's rules, which you are expected to understand and follow.I just bought a brand new '10 6.4 and realise that I really need to get rid of that DPF, my mileage sucks and I don't like the whole idea of the regen cycle blowing flaming diesel through my turbos, or the cylinders getting washed with diesel. Well, my buddy who is a GM dmax owner warns that GM is very strick, so he runs ZERO aftermarket stuff on his truck to keep his warranty. I was poking through the stack of paperwork the dealer gave me when I got the truck and noticed the "6.4 power stroke diesel delivery checklist" and #6 on this list says exactly this "The installation/use of an non-Ford product will not necessarily void the Ford New Vehicle Limited Warranty. If, however, the non-Ford product (e.g. performance chips, modified exhaust, etc.) fails or causes a Ford part to fail, the cost of the repair and any related damage are not covered by the Ford New Vehicle Limited Warranty."
to me the basically says that they understand that we may choose to remove the dpf and run a tune, but if we run a 345hp spartan tune while pulling 20,000lb and melt a hole in a piston, they are not covering it.
I find it had to believe that any programmer would not leave any trace. If nothing else changing the stock load back might cause the pcm to reset, and they would be able to tell it was recently reset.
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got kicked off my first diesel forum...
this guy is a dick, all acting all high and mighty and being polite about warning me, so I told him to f-off...
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This was over a thread about the cost effectivness of $350 tranmission pans.
Diesel owners are about as stupid as CRF owners.
One guy was bragging it all up that his truck is going to last forever becaue he uses Amsoil, and changes it every 2500 miles.
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This was over a thread about the cost effectivness of $350 tranmission pans.
Diesel owners are about as stupid as CRF owners.
One guy was bragging it all up that his truck is going to last forever becaue he uses Amsoil, and changes it every 2500 miles.
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LOL, yeah, I noticed a lot of dumbasses and a lot of hill billies running big smoke tunes and stacks. One guy had oil all over the side of his truck and didn't understand why, but he was running a +275hp race tune while pulling a horse trailer
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found some good info there, been trolling mostly.Mad Dog wrote:Nice to see you are holding up tradition.
FWIW, I use this site. http://www.powerstroke.org/forum/
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danny, i'll get you a link tuesday, one of our friends has done the whole deal before and successfully retuned the truck to stock for warranty without traces. In Alberta Canada the dpf is illegal because it can cause grass fires
theres alot of things you can do to that truck to gain some serious mileage. with the exhasut alone it was huge, 6mpg or something close
theres alot of things you can do to that truck to gain some serious mileage. with the exhasut alone it was huge, 6mpg or something close
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sweet, yeah, get me that link, I can't find much real info on if the dealer can tell there was a tuner and what the reaction would be.
What tuner was he running? I'm torn between the h&s mini maxx, spartan and innovative diesel tuned sct livewire.
What tuner was he running? I'm torn between the h&s mini maxx, spartan and innovative diesel tuned sct livewire.
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'05 klx110 --SOLD--
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'05 klx110 --SOLD--
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yeah, I hear claims of 22mpg empty on the freeway with just the spartan 275 tune, dpf delete and CAI.
I was gettign killer mileage for my first 100 miles, now since the first regeneration of the DPF I'm averaging 12-14 with a city/highway mix
I was gettign killer mileage for my first 100 miles, now since the first regeneration of the DPF I'm averaging 12-14 with a city/highway mix
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Gen-1 built dunes bike --SOLD--
'05 klx110 --SOLD--
'95 pw80
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'05 klx110 --SOLD--
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