Bad WTF Crack

Building Tips, Suspension Set Ups, Conversion Parts .... Build to your Heart's Content!
Post Reply
Roostmaster
Posts: 73
Joined: September 13th, 2007, 7:29 pm

Bad WTF Crack

Post by Roostmaster »

Hey guys have any of you seen an AF frame crack at the head set / stearing stem??
If so why?
My tripple clamps where tight and she hadnt had any big crashs but she does have a worked bigpower motor which Ive run geared up for speed -15 / 38- maybe the frame flex stess is the cause?
The bike shops I showed said they hadnt seen a Honda alloy chassis crack like that before!

Image

Image

Image
I have been to the top of the mountain and yes it is good.
User avatar
gregrobo
Posts: 1064
Joined: April 18th, 2009, 8:47 am
Location: kalgoorlie, western australia

Post by gregrobo »

never seen one like that before right down the mould join
only posties ride 4 stroke hondas
goldfields sheet metal fabrication
98 yzfr1
05 crf 500 race tech goldies
2010 rmz 500af
01 banshee
User avatar
zorak-2
Posts: 279
Joined: June 17th, 2007, 4:21 am
Location: clovis,ca

Post by zorak-2 »

thats weird for it crack there.May be you can V it out real good and clamp it and take it to a real good welder and repair it?
This site rocks
GEN 4 CRF500
dubious01
Posts: 472
Joined: October 23rd, 2009, 1:24 pm
Location: Calgary

Post by dubious01 »

Casting flaw would be my guess.
I have a welder who I would trust with diagnosis for repair / if repairable safely.
User avatar
dannygraves
Posts: 8020
Joined: June 1st, 2007, 2:03 pm
Location: Las Vegas, NV

Post by dannygraves »

I've never seen that before, I'm going with the others on here with casting flaw unless your head bearings were way too tight, they should be just snug and seated, but not tight, like car wheel bearings, you crank it tight, then back off aroudn a 1/4 turan and back and forth to feel where it "seats"
'09 kx450f 4-Poke
Gen-4 trail bike --SOLD--
Gen-3 badass trail/mx bike --SOLD--
Gen-1 built dunes bike --SOLD--
'05 klx110 --SOLD--
'95 pw80
Image
User avatar
asteroid500
Posts: 1047
Joined: January 5th, 2009, 1:29 am
Location: Australia Melbourne

Post by asteroid500 »

I think it may of been repaired like this.

Step #1..find & locate crack, we used a chemical crack tester.
Image

Step #2..drill a small hole strait threw the headstem to prevent further travel of the stress fracture.
Image

Step#3..V or groove out the fracture to a debth were the Tig weld can penertrate deeply & build up the material required.
Image

Image

Step #4..We ran a tripple fillet weld on this frame as it is a mate of mine's, center, left, then right.
Image

End result is a frame with its full structual integrity. ;D
Dont this frame look like the hammer in pink floydes, The Wall.....when it's been grooved out. ;)
All this work was carryed out at Wereabout Engineering by Dave the Tig master and crazy Carl, in Darwin Australia. 8-)

Hey Scotty, were do i send my crank for balancing?
"not speeding officer".....qualifying

CR250 97
CR500 AF 99 (in progress)
CR500 AF CR G-4
CR500 1985 true legend
RGV250 96 X2
GSXR600 07 TRACK BIKE
VH Commadore cup car (race)
User avatar
gregrobo
Posts: 1064
Joined: April 18th, 2009, 8:47 am
Location: kalgoorlie, western australia

Post by gregrobo »

asteroid when that crack was chased did they find any sand/imperfections
only posties ride 4 stroke hondas
goldfields sheet metal fabrication
98 yzfr1
05 crf 500 race tech goldies
2010 rmz 500af
01 banshee
User avatar
asteroid500
Posts: 1047
Joined: January 5th, 2009, 1:29 am
Location: Australia Melbourne

Post by asteroid500 »

no,
the crack wasn't found strait away and had been riden hard so it was full off grit, requiring an acid wash to make sure no alloy spat on the mig
"not speeding officer".....qualifying

CR250 97
CR500 AF 99 (in progress)
CR500 AF CR G-4
CR500 1985 true legend
RGV250 96 X2
GSXR600 07 TRACK BIKE
VH Commadore cup car (race)
User avatar
gregrobo
Posts: 1064
Joined: April 18th, 2009, 8:47 am
Location: kalgoorlie, western australia

Post by gregrobo »

ok the welder would have knew what i ment by my question sand/imperfections/airpockets in the casting
only posties ride 4 stroke hondas
goldfields sheet metal fabrication
98 yzfr1
05 crf 500 race tech goldies
2010 rmz 500af
01 banshee
User avatar
asteroid500
Posts: 1047
Joined: January 5th, 2009, 1:29 am
Location: Australia Melbourne

Post by asteroid500 »

Yeh, knew what you were talking about , a clean crack stait down the forge line
"not speeding officer".....qualifying

CR250 97
CR500 AF 99 (in progress)
CR500 AF CR G-4
CR500 1985 true legend
RGV250 96 X2
GSXR600 07 TRACK BIKE
VH Commadore cup car (race)
blackz34
Posts: 112
Joined: August 29th, 2009, 10:34 am

Post by blackz34 »

The frame I got from ebay was crackd just like this (CRF450 2006). I already had the frame sitting in the garage for months waiting for completion when I discovered the crack and already left a good feedback to the seller so I just had it welded like asteroid did. The difference beeing that we left the bearing race in place to avoid any machining. So far so good.
User avatar
gregrobo
Posts: 1064
Joined: April 18th, 2009, 8:47 am
Location: kalgoorlie, western australia

Post by gregrobo »

once the swingarm pivot bolt is in place it has to be aligned with the swing arm providing the right bolt is used
only posties ride 4 stroke hondas
goldfields sheet metal fabrication
98 yzfr1
05 crf 500 race tech goldies
2010 rmz 500af
01 banshee
Post Reply