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Time for a 2nd bike...

Posted: October 5th, 2007, 8:41 am
by tadiv
OK, say you just got a promotion at work (like me :lol: ) and wanted to get a second bike. I am thinking about a 4 stroke, electric start, headlight, tail light, factory kickstand kind of bike. One that I can just hop on, hit the start button and either put around with the kids or beat on a trail/track. What would you pick? WR450, cfr450x, ???

Posted: October 5th, 2007, 8:53 am
by AlisoBob
Image

Posted: October 5th, 2007, 9:29 am
by lewisclan
no e buttion but an XR650

Posted: October 5th, 2007, 9:31 am
by tadiv
AlisoBob wrote:Image
Thi kids would love to be behind that one!

Posted: October 5th, 2007, 9:42 am
by tadiv
lewisclan wrote:no e buttion but an XR650
I really would not mind a street legal one, but it might have a few too many turn signals just asking to get torn off by some rude tree! Is the "R" very nimble for tight trails and jumps? It looks a bit bulky in the pics. For a new bike, however it is not that expensive.

Other than lights is there much difference with the R & L?
EDIT ok, just looked at the web site, looks like a lot of difference!

Posted: October 5th, 2007, 9:45 am
by lewisclan
BIG DIFF, R=water cooled open class desert bike
L= street bike

Posted: October 5th, 2007, 9:49 am
by AlisoBob
http://www.suzukipowersports.com/new_ve ... les#detail


DR650SE

These look like a good time.

Posted: October 5th, 2007, 10:49 am
by britincali
AlisoBob wrote:http://www.suzukipowersports.com/new_ve ... les#detail


DR650SE

These look like a good time.

Big heavy slow pig that is crappy off road and on.

Posted: October 5th, 2007, 10:56 am
by AlisoBob
Cheap, air cooled, counter balanced, full lighting, E start.....

Bet "Farmer Karl" would wax your ass on it, while you rode your A/F....

Ever ride one?

Great forks...

Posted: October 5th, 2007, 11:14 am
by britincali
I had a DR350 for 2 years and rode a 650, I hated both.

Posted: October 5th, 2007, 11:54 am
by MojoScojo
AlisoBob wrote:Cheap, air cooled, counter balanced, full lighting, E start.....

Bet "Farmer Karl" would wax your ass on it, while you rode your A/F....

Ever ride one?

Great forks...
Farmer Karl could wax his ass from a KX65.

Posted: October 5th, 2007, 12:30 pm
by Slomo

Posted: October 5th, 2007, 12:32 pm
by AlisoBob
slomas wrote:http://www.ktmusa.com/530-EXC-R.71.20.h ... da62385a81


KTM is the only 4 stroke to buy.
Tad said he got a promotion... not hit the Lotto!


:wink:

Posted: October 5th, 2007, 12:34 pm
by AlisoBob
MojoScojo wrote: Farmer Karl could wax his ass from a KX65.

With a bald tire, blown motor, and amsoil in it.

:lol:

Posted: October 5th, 2007, 1:15 pm
by britincali
AlisoBob wrote:
MojoScojo wrote: Farmer Karl could wax his ass from a KX65.

With a bald tire, blown motor, and amsoil in it.

:lol:


Im sorry to admit I agree 100%...... :oops: :oops: :oops:

Posted: October 5th, 2007, 1:21 pm
by AlisoBob
No shame in that... Karl's the man..

Posted: October 5th, 2007, 5:21 pm
by Slomo
AlisoBob wrote:
slomas wrote:http://www.ktmusa.com/530-EXC-R.71.20.h ... da62385a81


KTM is the only 4 stroke to buy.
Tad said he got a promotion... not hit the Lotto!


:wink:

Pay now, or pay twice as much later....

Posted: October 5th, 2007, 7:28 pm
by lewisclan
GET THE XR :D

Posted: October 5th, 2007, 7:36 pm
by bigpower
Get another 500 and put a lighting kit on it

Sorry, but I'm of the thinking that you cannot have enough 500's

Unless of course you're gonna drop some cheese on say a HD Road King or a Gold Wing. Nothing like having the baddest shit on the trail, and the shit that will take you anywhere else on the street you wanna roll, IN STYLE!(and comfort)

Posted: October 5th, 2007, 7:57 pm
by britincali
I'll bet the CR would be a bitch as a daily driver, would it be fun YES.... a vibrating stalling handfull YES :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: October 5th, 2007, 9:09 pm
by lewisclan
I have 6 cr500s most of them tricked out but my trail bike is still an XR650R

Posted: October 16th, 2007, 12:35 pm
by tadiv
OK, well here is where I am at so far! Feel free to let me know if your opinions differ from what I have to date…

KLX300r: Sure it may be cheap, but I will be wanting more motor before long. Other than that it looks like a good deal.

CRF450: Needs a boat load of valve maintenance. Is this true if I trail ride more than track? Service Honda still has new 05’s!!!! Cheap cheap!!!!

CRF450x: Is this as bad as the non “x” or is it the same motor in a bike with lights? Local stealer quoted me $6100 plus tax for an 07.

WR450: Same question, is this the same as a YZF with lights, if so what about those darn valves!

KTM 300 XC-W (E): Electric start 2 stroke (YUM!), but the local KTM dealer is on crack. (Do not know if I could get one cheap enough, and still need to get lights on it!)

Husqvarna TE510: No dealer even close, high price, and still questions on competition 4 stroke valves. But this sucker is DOT ready, never a bad thing!

And finally...
XR650R: It felt a little big, and the suspension is a bit dated. I know this would be great for the woods, but worry about any track time it might see. I am 5’7” @160lbs, is this a bit large for me? The plus side is I think this is more of the bullet proof designs, like Honda’s of old. Even though it is liquid cooled, it does not have the valve problems of the “competition” 450’s. Stealer said I can have their 07 for $5100 plus tax.

Big concerns are price, durability (includes valve checking time), and will it be enough motor in a size appropriate frame. Now that you know a little more of my direction on these bikes, am I misunderstanding anything? Are the new 450 type bikes really that much o keep up? I really like the old bikes when I was a kid, ride it wash it and change the oil once every spring, that is all it needed.

(wow, that was a big long post!) :shock:

Posted: October 16th, 2007, 12:50 pm
by lewisclan
If you get the xr you will still need to uncork it , maybe pickup a used one allready uncorked for around 3500-4,000 maybe even one plated

those ktms are sweet too