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Grease? and rebuilding

Posted: May 19th, 2010, 1:35 pm
by NightBiker07
Well, i tore apart my suspension, cleaned and lubricated it before i started riding this season. the bearings were loose, i was only prolonging replacing them until i could get the Pivot Works kits. well, i have about 10 hours since the lubrication, and ALL the grease was crap. hard, washed away. some of it is most likely due to the seals being crap as well, but still.

I have all the Pivot Works kits, and i have 2 questions.

One, being what kind of grease should i use?

second, to they sometimes include crap that isnt used, or is different than OEM? i ask because the 00-01 CR250 swingarm kit has a few pieces that werent in the swinger upon disassembly.

Posted: May 19th, 2010, 3:11 pm
by MojoScojo
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Pics of the "extra" pieces may be in order.

Posted: May 19th, 2010, 5:44 pm
by pstoffers
MojoScojo wrote:Image

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An my $.02 Pivot Works :piss:

Posted: May 19th, 2010, 7:22 pm
by MojoScojo
pstoffers wrote:
MojoScojo wrote:Image

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An my $.02 Pivot Works :piss:
Lotsa things I don't know. That one I know.

x2 on the Pivot works. OEM is worth the extra money three fold.

Posted: May 19th, 2010, 7:37 pm
by NightBiker07
Well, next time i rebuild, i will have to try OEM.

it seems that someone before me has molested the suspension, there were plenty of missing pieces, according to the parts breakdown. i swear, some people dont know shit. it all seemed to be there when i tore it apart to grease it the last few times, so i never bothered to check the manual.

Posted: May 20th, 2010, 8:09 am
by hoofarted
NightBiker07 wrote: it seems that someone before me has molested the suspension, there were plenty of missing pieces, according to the parts breakdown. i swear, some people dont know shit.

I've lost count how many times I've encountered that! Some assholes should have their tool boxes welded shut for the stupid shit they do!

Posted: May 26th, 2010, 9:22 pm
by 100hp honda
missing parts aint nuthin. wait until you get a bike with some broken bolts half way into the clutch hub :lmao:. and the PO tries to drill it out but cant and fucks up the threads. hopes of salvaging the basket are grim but can be done sometimes with 10000:1 odds :lol:

Posted: May 26th, 2010, 9:26 pm
by AlisoBob
hoofarted wrote:Some assholes should have their tool boxes welded shut for the stupid shit they do!
:sheepviolate:

Posted: May 26th, 2010, 9:29 pm
by 100hp honda
anyone see the clown on TT that beat his crank out with a hammer ? it was classic :lol:

Posted: May 26th, 2010, 9:59 pm
by NightBiker07
100hp honda wrote:anyone see the clown on TT that beat his crank out with a hammer ? it was classic :lol:
HEY! Ive used my hammer more often than i should.....

as for goofs....i tried to press out the bearing from the piece listed below.....i smashed the piece.....turns out they HAVE to be PULLED out......:oops:

the arm-piece, not the 3 holed knuckle.

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Posted: May 27th, 2010, 9:29 pm
by caseyracing222
100hp honda wrote:anyone see the clown on TT that beat his crank out with a hammer ? it was classic :lol:
They all seem to like to remove there cranks with hammers over there, I was called a dumb ass because I told a guy that it was a bad idea to hit the crank with anything because it knocks it out of true..... I guess we'll see who the real dumb ass is when his bike blows up :roll: :lol:

Posted: May 28th, 2010, 8:30 am
by dannygraves
that is 99% of the reason I bought a brand new bike... no one had a chance to fuck it up yet.
the '89 donor I had was covered in framing hammer waffle marks since some dbag thought that is how you work on a bike. :roll:

Posted: May 28th, 2010, 10:00 am
by AlisoBob
dannygraves wrote:...the '89 donor I had was covered in framing hammer waffle marks since some dbag thought that is how you work on a bike. :roll:
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Posted: May 29th, 2010, 9:16 am
by caseyracing222
dannygraves wrote:that is 99% of the reason I bought a brand new bike... no one had a chance to fuck it up yet.
the '89 donor I had was covered in framing hammer waffle marks since some dbag thought that is how you work on a bike. :roll:
I bought all my smaller bikes brand new, but the guy I bought my 250 used from worked right next to a yamaha dealer and had them service everything even changing the oil, he even gave me all the receipts and every dirtbike magazine from the year of my bike to help dial it in. as for my 500 I bought it with very low hours on original everything, even had the stock tires.

Posted: May 31st, 2010, 7:00 pm
by seanmx57
I put an hour meter on the last time I serviced my linkage. at 16 hours and only 1 semi-muddy day the bearings on the lower shock mount were dry and overdue on a regrease.

What's wrong with pivot works stuff. Never used em before. I always figured grease is cheaper.

Posted: June 4th, 2010, 4:07 pm
by ischilk299
I always regrease the pivot works sealed bearings when I get them, they are always on the dry side new.

Posted: July 12th, 2010, 11:13 pm
by M.F.D.B.
If you use a soft dead blow hammer you are not going to hurt anything. I have even seen in a couple different OEM SERVICE MANUALS (RMZ450 for one) to do this. If you can run a crank out of true with a dead blow you definitely need to have your tool box welded shut! Anyone who has pressed a crank together can tell you this. It takes an ENORMOUS hydraulic press to put together or take apart and truing the crank with a hammer requires a large amount of force in a completely different axis than "tapping" a crank out exerts.

I have used PW and All Balls for wheel bearings and never had any issues nor can I tell you any difference in quality between them, only cost. I only use OEM bearings/seals/gaskets in engines, they are much harder to change and much more costly if they fail!