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messing with timeing for easie starting... cr250 ignition
Posted: March 9th, 2010, 6:52 am
by r1yfz
some where someone was talking about advancing or maybe retarding the ignition 5*-10* to allow for easy starting....
can someone show pictures of what they are doing exactly?
Posted: March 9th, 2010, 7:46 am
by hoofarted
Loosen the stator plate bolts a tad and turn it in the same direction as the motor rotates (Left IIRC) - which would be advancing. The slots allow for only a little bit of adjustment. Try a little at a time and leave it to your liking.
Posted: March 9th, 2010, 7:50 am
by r1yfz
so turn it counter clockwise?
if i turned it to the max, about how far would that be?
what will this do to the performance?
Posted: March 9th, 2010, 7:53 am
by hoofarted
r1yfz wrote:so turn it counter clockwise?
if i turned it to the max, about how far would that be?
what will this do to the performance?
When the stator cover is off, operate the kicker by hand, paying attention to which way it spins. Loosen the stator plate bolts and turn it a tiny bit in the same direction. Max depends on the ignition you have in the bike. slots are only ~.75" long on each side...so it doesn't move much. Also, you may need to fatten up your pilot (slow speed screw) by 1/2 - 1 turn in as well - found mine was pinging on the low end. Fattened up the pilot remedied it.
Posted: March 9th, 2010, 8:42 am
by r1yfz
thanks for the info! im going to give that a try!
Posted: March 9th, 2010, 12:05 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
hoofarted wrote:...turn it in the same direction as the motor rotates (Left IIRC) - which would be advancing. ...
WTF!
maybee this will make sense, if the spark happens before tdc its advance, after is retarded
Posted: March 9th, 2010, 12:09 pm
by AlisoBob
Roostius_Maximus wrote:hoofarted wrote:...turn it in the same direction as the motor rotates (Left IIRC) - which would be advancing. ...
WTF!
Posted: March 9th, 2010, 12:14 pm
by hoofarted
Shit. I'm bass-ackwards....
Like I said...IIRC..which was incorrect.
Posted: March 9th, 2010, 12:16 pm
by AlisoBob
Are those cast or forged pistons Rooosty?
Posted: March 9th, 2010, 12:23 pm
by r1yfz
now im lost... i will pm you a pic tonight roost
Posted: March 9th, 2010, 12:23 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
billet
Posted: March 9th, 2010, 12:33 pm
by AlisoBob
r1yfz wrote:now im lost... i will pm you a pic tonight roost
Turning the stator plate the SAME direction of the flywheel RETARDS the timing
Turning the stator plate the OPPOSITE direction of the flywheel ADVANCES the timing.
Get it ?
Posted: March 9th, 2010, 12:34 pm
by AlisoBob
I asked Roosty this....
" Roosty I set my clock to get up at 4:45am, cuz I want to be up by 5am but I also set the clock ahead... so 5:00am is really 4:45am.
Am I advanced, or retarded? "
Roosty replied, "YOUR retarded....."
Posted: March 9th, 2010, 12:35 pm
by hoofarted
Kinda how I felt...
Posted: March 9th, 2010, 2:45 pm
by r1yfz
AlisoBob wrote:r1yfz wrote:now im lost... i will pm you a pic tonight roost
Turning the stator plate the SAME direction of the flywheel RETARDS the timing
Turning the stator plate the OPPOSITE direction of the flywheel ADVANCES the timing.
Get it ?
so clockwise... got it
Posted: March 9th, 2010, 2:51 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
yessum
Posted: March 28th, 2010, 4:43 pm
by stu460
AlisoBob wrote:Roostius_Maximus wrote:hoofarted wrote:...turn it in the same direction as the motor rotates (Left IIRC) - which would be advancing. ...
WTF!
I wouldnt want hoofarted to time my bike....Fuck me swinging..