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Flawed logic. Where does it end?

Posted: November 25th, 2009, 8:56 am
by MojoScojo
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healt ... lives.html

There is just so much wrong with this thought process. Where to even start...

Posted: November 25th, 2009, 10:00 am
by redrocket190
It is true that energy is lost as heat at each step in the food chain. I know because in another life I actually was tasked with measuring heat loss from chickens in a controlled environment. So therefore it would be more efficient to eat grass and cut out the middleman so to speak.

However that is not the point here. Rather the whole emissions > Global Warming argument has had a huge set back recently when a hacker got hold of years' worth of email from the Univ of East Anglia that showed scientific data had selectively used to promote the GW argument (and all of the associated government scare tactics) and anything (and anyone against) was silenced. So all this kind of scare-mongering should be ignored.

Posted: November 25th, 2009, 10:28 am
by MojoScojo
The gist of that article was...
"We need to reduce the carbon emissions, so eat less meat so we don't have as much carbon emissions related to raising meat to feed you and so you don't die from heart disease"

but then... "so we have more people on the planet that emit carbon and eat meat to support."

Round and round and round.
redrocket190 wrote:So all this kind of scare-mongering should be ignored.
Agreed. Just saw the headline and was compelled by "omg, what nonsense are they spewing now?"

Posted: November 25th, 2009, 11:18 am
by MojoScojo
Heh, apparently there are a flurry of stories this morning. I just couldn't ignore them all. Some rather interesting ones actually. Apparently the computer model used to calculate all these "forecasts" has code that allows the result of squaring a number to be NEGATIVE!, and when it throws exceptions, the exception is ignored and the code continues merrily along its way. OMFG!!! And these are the scientists we're listening to?!?!?!

Posted: November 26th, 2009, 11:02 am
by hoofarted
It has been bullshit since the start! Scientists signed up since there was $$ in it for them. As well as everyone else pushing this agenda. Thats all it is. Here in Cali, the size of new TV's are being limited to conserve energy! Believe that? What a croc. Fukn lib hippies....

Posted: November 26th, 2009, 2:36 pm
by redrocket190
hoofarted wrote:It has been bullshit since the start! Scientists signed up since there was $$ in it for them. As well as everyone else pushing this agenda. Thats all it is. Here in Cali, the size of new TV's are being limited to conserve energy! Believe that? What a croc. Fukn lib hippies....
I bet Best Buy stores in Arizona are rubbing their hands in glee....

Posted: November 26th, 2009, 3:00 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
if we just killed 1/2 the population of the earth we wouldnt have this problem

Posted: November 27th, 2009, 1:34 am
by CR500R7
The EXPERTS 20-25 years ago said the Earth can only handle 2.5 Billion people, so we need to lose more than half the population. :wink:

Posted: November 27th, 2009, 6:53 am
by 90cr500guy
start with China, they have the largest population

Posted: November 28th, 2009, 11:37 am
by DesertCR
Yep its all BS. Whats up with the UK/Western Europe in general becoming so PC? They're a bunch of panzies over there. Those nations lost their sacks a long time ago.