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CR and KX fiber plates are nearly identical in size, and they both fit perfectly in a ktm basket. your probly wondering what the significance is. simply put, if you dump the ktm fibers (which are steel carcass) in place of the hondas, you cut 1 full pound from the rotating mass, nearly reducing the total clutch pack weight in half .

ktm clutch- ounces




honda clutch for ktm basket- ounces




theres more advantages. the ears on the plates are quit a bit wider which givers a better foot print on the basket fingers. ktm plates groove the shit out of the basket because the ear is so thin.




and the pad itself has alot more surface area to grip into the adjacent metal drive plate. left is ktm, center is kx, right is honda.




ktm set up




honda set up installed





my freind has been using the kx plates in his ktm with good sucess, but to the best of my knowledge nobody was aware of the honda plates. it was yesterday when i was messing around and found the hondas fit perfect. for me its a great discovery . it was dark when i finally got it buttoned up so ill ride it tomorow.

This is far more interesting...

http://www.redheadsnonstop.com/

i could care less what you think . your more of a follower than a leader anyways. im not stingy with any of my secret info, so i posted it in hopes that it may help a ktm owner.

Robie pounds his KTM clutched harder than you ever could dream to KC.. I never heard him say he wished it was anything more than whay KTM supplies stock.

Your trading more "thin" plates, for less "thicker" ones... have you calculated how much you are reducing the available clutch surface area by?

Oh, I forgot..... you cant do that kind of math on your fingers...

you no nothing of ktm, probly never even rode one. having said that, the new ktm bikes probly use a totally different clutch than the older bikes. if the old clutches were so awesome then why the fuk would i change it ??????? . the old clutches were shit..........but you wouldnt know that because you dont know jack shit about ktm. as a matter of fact i dont think you know much technical stuff about the honda. you have nothing under your belt of discoveries/accomplishments other than 1 or 2 conversions, and all you did was the cut and mock up.........big fukin deal, theres 1000 retards on the other site doing their own conversions so that aint sayin much for you. oh wait you did have another accomplishment, you helped a few folks that were caught in the TTM scandel, and boy did you pat yourself on the back, probly still patting yourself on the back . its all cool brotha, im nothin more than a average dude with 11th grade education, but ill keep forging ahead trying to find new ways to improve the 2stroke, and ill share my ideas and try to help the other hoons.

anyways now this thread is fuked with bullshit. hope somebody can find the info usefull

You didnt answer my question, do you have any idea how much you reduced the surface area by??

100hp, I dont have a KTM but I do think its cool how your trying to improve some flaws you found in your bike, and anyone who is trying to expand their knowledge of engines and how to improve their bike is cool in my books

AlisoBob wrote:You didnt answer my question, do you have any idea how much you reduced the surface area by??

i dont know but i can figure it out tomorow. its irrelevant anyways. basically what i did was turn the 10/9 ktm clutch into a 7/8 plate setup just like what the early cr500 used. believe me, the older ktm setup is not a good design....its extremely heavy, creeps like a motha if EVERYTHING isnt in perfect working order, it notches the basket real bad because the plates are so thin, and the fibers use some type of bronze composition which i think contributes to the creep issues.

i forgot to mention, i believe the kx500 fibers will fit perfect in the CR and are $4 cheaper each plate. im 99% sure they will fit and work good. they actually have a deeper channell between the fiber pads that might let oil through and cool the clutch better.

dont take it the wrong way bob. sorry i didnt meen to get pissed. its just been one of them days . its all cool

100hp honda wrote: its irrelevant anyways.

Yea, surface area means nothing....... your right.

And Honda added the extra plate in late model clutches just for shits and grins....

surface area does meen something, 8 honda plates would be the shizz but unfortunatly only 7 will fit . 7 hondas will give plenty surface area.....ask danny and roosty . sometimes you have to look at the big picture

rode for 2 hours today. everything worked great and theres plenty of surface area . the plates grab like a motha . not sure who all owns a ktm but if you need the specific deatails of the procedure just send a pm.

100hp honda wrote:rode for 2 hours today. everything worked great and theres plenty of surface area . the plates grab like a motha . not sure who all owns a ktm but if you need the specific deatails of the procedure just send a pm.

if it works, and lasts, then i can only see advantages. less weight, and less basket grooving.

NightBiker07 wrote:

100hp honda wrote:rode for 2 hours today. everything worked great and theres plenty of surface area . the plates grab like a motha . not sure who all owns a ktm but if you need the specific deatails of the procedure just send a pm.

if it works, and lasts, then i can only see advantages. less weight, and less basket grooving.

X2..... good job Clyde....

NightBiker07 wrote:

100hp honda wrote:rode for 2 hours today. everything worked great and theres plenty of surface area . the plates grab like a motha . not sure who all owns a ktm but if you need the specific deatails of the procedure just send a pm.

if it works, and lasts, then i can only see advantages. less weight, and less basket grooving.

it works and works good . it should last for a long time because its basically the same 7/8 setup that '85-'89 cr500's used. less weight is good, the honda plates cut out 1 full pound.

i would say the plates grab just fine.

Don't loop it.

thats some funny shit

100hp honda wrote:you have nothing under your belt of discoveries/accomplishments other than 1 or 2 conversions, and all you did was the cut and mock up.........big fukin deal, theres 1000 retards on the other site doing their own conversions so that aint sayin much for you.

Yeah the retards might be doing conversions but how good are they, anyone can do a conversion but that DOES NOT mean it is a GOOD / GREAT conversion.

Bob's conversion has had nearly 28,000 views he must of done something right.

WAY TO GO Bob.

thousands of conversions out there, a good majority of them probly home built. i personaly heard about only 3 breaking, 2 of them were S/H and the other was that dude than broke in half on the motocross track. sure theres probly a few more broke than i havent heard about. it still tells me than any hack can throw together a conversion and it will most likely hold up

Damn, that back tire fuckin GRIPS!