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Ironman sprocket BOLTS REALLY REALLY suck!

Posted: September 22nd, 2009, 5:01 pm
by Disturbed
The hex head is about 3/16" deep and strips out very easily. :evil: :evil:

Posted: September 22nd, 2009, 5:34 pm
by LAYNFRM
use a open end wrench on the nut to loosen it, while just holding pressure on the allen head. that way has worked for me for years. at first i tried just using the allen head to loosen it, and i was stripping them constantly. now, i never strip them.

Posted: September 22nd, 2009, 6:03 pm
by iggys-amsoil
And make sure you use the box end side too. Oh and good luck with that one or two spokes in the way. :wink: :lol: Well, at least with the 19" 250 rim.

Posted: September 22nd, 2009, 7:00 pm
by Disturbed
[quote="LAYNFRM"]use a open end wrench on the nut to loosen it, while just holding pressure on the allen head. that way has worked for me for years. at first i tried just using the allen head to loosen it, and i was stripping them constantly. now, i never strip them.[/quote

I did/do. With the pre-locktite [d] bolts they were broken loose and backed out 1/8"+ but that's when 2 bolt heads stripped.

Posted: September 22nd, 2009, 7:10 pm
by hoofarted
LAYNFRM wrote:use a open end wrench on the nut to loosen it, while just holding pressure on the allen head. that way has worked for me for years. at first i tried just using the allen head to loosen it, and i was stripping them constantly. now, i never strip them.
X2!

Posted: September 23rd, 2009, 7:33 am
by lewisclan
hoofarted wrote:
LAYNFRM wrote:use a open end wrench on the nut to loosen it, while just holding pressure on the allen head. that way has worked for me for years. at first i tried just using the allen head to loosen it, and i was stripping them constantly. now, i never strip them.
X2!
hummm go figure

Posted: September 23rd, 2009, 5:16 pm
by Rosco-Peeko
As long as you bust the nut side loose first....should not be an issue. Torque should be applied and broken on the nut side....ALWAYS. :wink:

Posted: September 24th, 2009, 8:04 pm
by Disturbed
Is it really that difficult to understand the bolt had been broken loose and the bolt was being used to continue to loosen it when 2 allen heads stripped?

Crap, that seems pretty simple to understand to me.

Posted: September 24th, 2009, 8:37 pm
by CR500R7
It is just like it reads. :roll: :roll:

Reads simple to me. :wink:

Posted: September 27th, 2009, 6:57 pm
by Disturbed
Yeah, you guys are fucking perfect and so are Ironman sprocket bolts. :roll:

Posted: September 27th, 2009, 7:32 pm
by AlisoBob
Stop using chinese hex drivers....

Posted: September 27th, 2009, 9:07 pm
by dannygraves
Disturbed wrote:Yeah, you guys are fucking perfect and so are Ironman sprocket bolts. :roll:
nice fucken attitude :roll:
like they all said on ALL BRANDS OF SPROCKET BOLTS, only use the allen side to hold it steady, apply all torque to the nut.

Posted: September 28th, 2009, 7:38 am
by Disturbed
How hard is to understand?:

I WAS

Funny, the T handle packaging reads "Made in USA".

Posted: September 28th, 2009, 9:17 am
by AlisoBob
Image

Posted: September 28th, 2009, 11:26 am
by caseyracing222
I must side with Disturbed on this issue, I havent used iron man sproket bolts before, but I have used msr and they suck, the metal is very brittle and does strip very easily when installing them correctly, also they came loose after eveyride. The point is some things are best bought oem and sprocket bolt are one of those things.

Posted: September 28th, 2009, 1:46 pm
by ISBB
i have used MSR bolts on the 500 and my 426.. just dont try and tighten loosen with the allen side and use a boxed end wrench on the nut side and your good.. never one problem with sprocket bolts for me. Now im gonna head to the garage to night just to check lol

Posted: September 28th, 2009, 4:52 pm
by Disturbed
caseyracing222 wrote:I must side with Disturbed on this issue, I havent used iron man sproket bolts before, but I have used msr and they suck, the metal is very brittle and does strip very easily when installing them correctly, also they came loose after eveyride. The point is some things are best bought oem and sprocket bolt are one of those things.
Clearly another hack doing it all wrong with improper tools. You just need to do it correctly like I know how to.

You need to just hold the allen side while applying torque to the nut side. If you do this properly every bolt made on the planet will spin loose with ease and never strip. I don't know why someone else hasn't pointed this out earlier on this thread.

:wink:

Posted: September 28th, 2009, 4:54 pm
by AlisoBob
caseyracing222 wrote:The point is some things are best bought oem and sprocket bolt are one of those things.
Most everything....

:wink:

Posted: September 28th, 2009, 5:17 pm
by caseyracing222
AlisoBob wrote:
caseyracing222 wrote:The point is some things are best bought oem and sprocket bolt are one of those things.
Most everything....

:wink:
yup, I buy all oem honda parts because they are reasonably priced, but for yamaha I buy what I can afford the cranks are close to $400 and pistons are $200, I dont understand why Yamaha parts are so overpriced, usually honda parts are only a few more dollars than aftermarket

Posted: September 28th, 2009, 5:19 pm
by caseyracing222
Disturbed wrote:
caseyracing222 wrote:I must side with Disturbed on this issue, I havent used iron man sproket bolts before, but I have used msr and they suck, the metal is very brittle and does strip very easily when installing them correctly, also they came loose after eveyride. The point is some things are best bought oem and sprocket bolt are one of those things.
Clearly another hack doing it all wrong with improper tools. You just need to do it correctly like I know how to.

You need to just hold the allen side while applying torque to the nut side. If you do this properly every bolt made on the planet will spin loose with ease and never strip. I don't know why someone else hasn't pointed this out earlier on this thread.

:wink:
Im no hack and I know how to install sprocket bolts, ive been wrenching on bikes for 13 years...

Posted: September 28th, 2009, 5:45 pm
by Disturbed
caseyracing222 wrote:
Disturbed wrote:
caseyracing222 wrote:I must side with Disturbed on this issue, I havent used iron man sproket bolts before, but I have used msr and they suck, the metal is very brittle and does strip very easily when installing them correctly, also they came loose after eveyride. The point is some things are best bought oem and sprocket bolt are one of those things.
Clearly another hack doing it all wrong with improper tools. You just need to do it correctly like I know how to.

You need to just hold the allen side while applying torque to the nut side. If you do this properly every bolt made on the planet will spin loose with ease and never strip. I don't know why someone else hasn't pointed this out earlier on this thread.

:wink:


Im no hack and I know how to install sprocket bolts, ive been wrenching on bikes for 13 years...
And after my almost 40 years of fooling with bikes it's not impossible to see way I got a wee bit cranky with the redundant posts.

Posted: September 28th, 2009, 5:57 pm
by caseyracing222
There was no need to get snappy at someone who was on your side

Posted: September 28th, 2009, 7:01 pm
by Disturbed
Sorry you didn't get it....you weren't the brunt of it.

Sarcasm: stating the opposite of an intended meaning especially in order to sneeringly, slyly, jest, mock, hurt or insult a person, situation or thing; extreme form of irony.

Posted: September 28th, 2009, 7:45 pm
by CR500R7
Well Ive had the whole deal from the start, I know what you have been getting at. :wink:

Posted: October 11th, 2009, 12:10 am
by thestuz
he has a good point. the shallow hex head is not the best design imo. i too had the same problem with one of mine. even though i was using the hex side just to hold it, the bolt can still spin in the hole. therefor the pressure you apply to the nut finds its way to the hex head on the other side. i prefer metric nuts/bolts anyday. but as already said, use correct tensile allen keys that are the right fit and make sure you have some locktite on the nuts, pref the stuff that doesnt dry while your wrenching. good luck