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how do you remove front suspension valves?
Posted: August 12th, 2009, 3:32 am
by thestuz
tried unscrewing the hex head bolt under the bottom of my 01 cr5 . but as i turn them anti clockwise, they turn but are not coming out??? what gives?
Posted: August 12th, 2009, 11:33 am
by yota
with the spring in and top cap on turn the fork upside down and push down hard against the floor applying pressure on the spring while turning the nut. a butterfly air wrench helps.
Posted: August 12th, 2009, 1:26 pm
by thestuz
cheers, will try that tonight when i get home from work.
Posted: August 12th, 2009, 5:51 pm
by 100hp honda
the special tool makes it alot easier.
Posted: August 12th, 2009, 6:26 pm
by AlisoBob
yota wrote: a butterfly air wrench helps.
Yup.....
Posted: August 12th, 2009, 6:53 pm
by 100hp honda
you guys sure like doing shit the hard way. if your too cheap to buy the tool, you can make one easy enough.
Posted: August 13th, 2009, 1:17 am
by CR500R7
Posted: August 13th, 2009, 1:25 am
by thestuz
all good, i just used a rattle gun to get them out. took them to my tuner for a revalve and my suspension tuner said they had no slow speed dampening in them. just all high speed. he took out some high speed shims and replaced them with some low speed ones. well i just got the forks back together and its feeling much plusher. taking it out to the track on saturday for a test. will keep posted on how they ride.
Posted: August 13th, 2009, 7:03 am
by yota
100hp honda wrote:the special tool makes it alot easier.
what tool? never needed anything special to get the bottom nut loosened before, done KTM's, YZ's and Showas, twin chamber and regular. I do have a few special tools to get the internals out of twin chamber forks once the bottom nut is loosened.
Posted: August 13th, 2009, 6:28 pm
by 100hp honda
i think the technical name is T handle tool / damper holder. its basically a piece of pipe with 4 prongs on one end and a T handle on the other. you take off the top fork cap and spring then put it inside and it holds the back side of the bottom bolt. it made life alot easier for me, no tipping the forks upside down, while trying to compress the spring, while trying to turn the bolt. someone may have been in your forks previously and didnt tighten the bolt back to the proper torque and thats why yours came out easy

. there was a fork tutorial on the internet that mentioned to do it your way.....i tried it but the bolt is supposed to be 58lbft on the newer forks....... i quickly realized it was easier to use that holder tool rather than fuck around. to each their own i guess

Posted: August 15th, 2009, 10:35 am
by DonDDR
Where do you get that tool????? I need one real bad.
Posted: August 15th, 2009, 10:48 am
by 100hp honda
i got mine from a fork shop, i cant remeber which one right off hand. check back tonight and ill get you some info on how to make your own or ill get a link where you can buy one.
Posted: August 15th, 2009, 11:33 am
by DonDDR
That would be great. My bike has been apart for a month while I try to figure this out.
Posted: August 15th, 2009, 11:37 am
by DonDDR
Looks like parts unlimited has one for the CR but it says not for 91-2 model years, which is the year of my forks.
Posted: August 15th, 2009, 11:53 am
by 100hp honda
i think '91-'01 uses the same tool. take a look.
http://www.racetech.com/page.aspx?id=70&menuid=57
Posted: August 16th, 2009, 11:56 am
by DonDDR
That tool might work but there is some kinda valve half way down the tube in the way of getting the tool to the bottom. I need to just throw them away and buy later style forks. My bike has been apart all summer over this crap.
Posted: August 16th, 2009, 8:14 pm
by 100hp honda
throw away your forks because you cant figure out how to take them apart ?

. i was looking in the honda manual and it appears they come apart pretty much the same way as the newer forks and it says they both can use the same holder tool, race tech website also says '90-'01 uses the same tool. taking apart and putting back together the forks is a fairly easy job, usually couple hours with the help of a honda manual (some people maybe can do it quicker but thats what it took me). if you had a manual, you would of been riding your bike along time ago

. $40 is a pretty small investment, considering it explains every detail about the whole bike.
Posted: August 16th, 2009, 11:34 pm
by DonDDR
For what I will have into these forks I can buy a nice set of the later cartridge style, dialed for my weight/riding style, thats where the the throw away thot comes from. The manuel doesnt address the problem I have. I am a service advisor at a Yamaha dealer and none of my techs know how to get around the problem and I sent them across town to the Honda dealer and they didnt know either. Posted several times about this and got no answers. Or maybe Im just soopid, laugh..... Thanks for your replys tho.
Posted: August 17th, 2009, 8:54 am
by 100hp honda
sorry i couldnt be of more help. i cant imagine what would be inside your forks that prevents you from taking them apart. i have the manual in front of me and there should be no secret tricks. if it stumps a yamaha tech then it must be complicated i guess

. anyways good luck with a newer pair
