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What brand piston?
Posted: June 18th, 2009, 9:53 am
by dog walker
What piston do you all suggest? I've always used Weisco in the past, but after reading allot on this website it seems most of you consider them to not be so good? Thanks,
Jeff
Posted: June 18th, 2009, 9:59 am
by AlisoBob
They have their place....... SEVERE DUTY
90% of all other riders would be better with cast.
Posted: June 18th, 2009, 10:43 am
by south central hoon
OEM period...
I am always amused at so many of the guys on these boards that carry the torch for running honda replacement parts, but are quick to also tell you how rad a wiseco is. drill the special little holes, massage it, carry it to bed with them, whatever.
Honda has by far the most research into the design of thier pistons. why run anything else?
You so often read about these bikes running 10 years on the original motor/top end. Good luck receiving that kind of longevity with a wiseco.
Bob's right however, i am sure for the guys that RACE every weekend, and plan to rebuild two times a season the wiseco is great. As far as i can tell Iggy is the only one on this board that is racing weekly.
Posted: June 18th, 2009, 10:57 am
by LOVEMYCR500
if you trail ride, cast is fine and will last. I can tell you after having cast piston skirts explode into a million pieces, I would never run a cast piston. Dune only bike, forged all the way. As long as you get your cylinder bored correctly for a forged piston and you do the proper break in on them, they will last longer and they don't explode. I just hate the fact that Wiesco isn't willing to do any machining on them any more.
I am considering a Wossner piston but they are only single ring and I don't know how I feel about a single ring piston in a non race application.
Probably will just get a boat anchor wiesco and machine it lighter.
Posted: June 18th, 2009, 11:21 am
by Roostius_Maximus
i just went thru building my af and chose an oem 89.25 honda piston, my alternative to that is only the vertex. I have a prox in a bridgeless 86 engine and run all my stuff to the nuts, hillclimbing, trail, open field.
Dont let the $ make your decision either, if its 89, 89.5 90 9.5 or 91 I'd be on Vertex when no oem is available quick, NOT pro-x cuz of thier design, and last place i put the 1st+2nd gen wisecos.
Posted: June 18th, 2009, 12:08 pm
by AlisoBob
LOVEMYCR500 wrote: they will last longer and they don't explode.
Excessive cylinder clearence makes cast pistons crack....
Running a cracked piston will lead to the explosion you mention, but the root cause goes back to the clearences....
Posted: June 18th, 2009, 2:58 pm
by south central hoon
i agree bob, and it takes really big clearances over really long periods for the skirt to crack....and for a crack to grenade is pretty damned rare....
poor machining + poor maintanence=excessive clearance
Excessive clearance+time= Kaboom
pretty simple, and not the fault of the piston manufacture process, IMO.
Posted: June 18th, 2009, 3:34 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
I went to a pull one time and a dude who'd been winning here in his hometown came over to give me the peptalk about how he was going to kick my butt.
I ran my smallblock and 175 rwhp of nitrous and kicked him by a long ways, he complained it wasnt stock, bla bla bla, it had OEM cast hyperutectic pistons from a 95 corvette in it.
Posted: June 18th, 2009, 3:51 pm
by AlisoBob
If you go through all the "piston issue" posts........
95 % are Wiescos that have either siezed, have " black death", pinched a ring, or have terrible blow by issues.
4.5% are oem cast pistons who have run hard for 8 years and developed the "smile" cracks.
.5% are cast pistons that have fragged.
Its not a huge issue.
Posted: June 18th, 2009, 4:35 pm
by britincali
Personally im a wiseco fan.
Posted: June 18th, 2009, 4:48 pm
by 100hp honda
Posted: June 19th, 2009, 7:47 am
by dog walker
Thanks for all the good information. I think I'll go OEM!
Posted: June 19th, 2009, 9:05 am
by 100hp honda
dog walker wrote:Thanks for all the good opinions. I think I'll go OEM!
for the most part, its a matter of choice. both pistons work just fine.

Posted: June 19th, 2009, 11:01 am
by south central hoon
dog walker wrote:Thanks for all the good information. I think I'll go OEM!

Posted: June 19th, 2009, 4:03 pm
by nmdesertrider
IMHO vertex cast pistons are better than prox which is OEM
Fit and finish is much better on the vertex
Posted: June 19th, 2009, 7:48 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
except prox is the ugly step sister and likes it in both holes at the same time