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TTM, scam or no scam?

Posted: April 19th, 2009, 9:23 am
by CR500 4 Ever
Is waiting a long time for a bike that ends up being a disaster a scam or not? You would think if a mistake was made you would stand behind you product right? Maybe Mike should just stick with frames, not complete bikes.

Posted: April 19th, 2009, 10:18 am
by 100hp honda
bernie madof and the $52 million ponzi sceme was a scam, calling mike a scam might be going alittle over board. but, there definatly seems to be something fishy going on. its funny how when these issues come to light, theres always 2 totally different stories. its hard to say if we will ever hear the REAL story :?

Posted: April 19th, 2009, 10:30 am
by pstoffers
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Posted: April 19th, 2009, 10:49 am
by CR500 4 Ever
100hp honda wrote:bernie madof and the $52 million ponzi sceme was a scam, calling mike a scam might be going alittle over board. but, there definatly seems to be something fishy going on. its funny how when these issues come to light, theres always 2 totally different stories. its hard to say if we will ever hear the REAL story :?
I agree 100%. Maybe I'm being a little hard on Mike Almighty, but it is clear that something HAS happened and we need the answers, not excusses.

Posted: April 19th, 2009, 11:00 am
by Travis
CR500 4 Ever wrote:I agree 100%. Maybe I'm being a little hard on Mike Almighty, but it is clear that something HAS happened and we need the answers, not excusses.
You don't need answers. You have no money in this deal and are obviously a SH supporter. No problem there but if Mike takes your money then you will NEED answers. You are just looking for entertainment.

Posted: April 19th, 2009, 11:37 am
by oggo69
travis is correct , this poll should be deleted

Posted: April 19th, 2009, 11:42 am
by AlisoBob
I voted "No Scam"

Right now,its just delays.

Posted: April 19th, 2009, 2:54 pm
by HrcRacing
AlisoBob wrote:I voted "No Scam"

Right now,its just delays.
You can do better than that. You own this forum, delete this horse shit. This mother fucker has no stake in what's going on anyway.

He's proven on the other forum that he's nothing more than a narcissistic fucker and is only trying to start shit.

Posted: April 19th, 2009, 3:10 pm
by Exnav
HrcRacing wrote:
AlisoBob wrote:I voted "No Scam"

Right now,its just delays.
You can do better than that. You own this forum, delete this horse shit. This mother fucker has no stake in what's going on anyway.

He's proven on the other forum that he's nothing more than a narcissistic fucker and is only trying to start shit.
It's too much to expect people to show some class and be decent I suppose. It is the internet after all. ~sarcasm~

Posted: April 19th, 2009, 3:27 pm
by Ported&Polished
Exnav wrote:
HrcRacing wrote:
AlisoBob wrote:I voted "No Scam"

Right now,its just delays.
You can do better than that. You own this forum, delete this horse shit. This mother fucker has no stake in what's going on anyway.

He's proven on the other forum that he's nothing more than a narcissistic fucker and is only trying to start shit.
It's too much to expect people to show some class and be decent I suppose. It is the internet after all. ~sarcasm~
Thank you, that was a good laugh for mid day Sunday. :lol:

Posted: April 19th, 2009, 3:30 pm
by BigSteve
Why would you even post this?

Posted: April 19th, 2009, 3:35 pm
by teemtrubble
It's a free forum that's why I say vote!

Posted: April 19th, 2009, 3:40 pm
by bodger
If I had just spent almost $10,000 on a conversion with a zero hours ported engine, then it turned out not to be so new and not ported, then I would feel like I had just been scammed, and I bet every single member here would feel the same if it was their hard earned $10,000.

I vote yes.

Posted: April 19th, 2009, 4:51 pm
by 100hp honda
Travis wrote: You don't need answers. You have no money in this deal and are obviously a SH supporter. No problem there but if Mike takes your money then you will NEED answers. You are just looking for entertainment.

like i said before, i think the REAL story needs told. potential future customers are depending on it. what ever the real story is, it should be told and not brushed under the carpet

Posted: April 19th, 2009, 4:59 pm
by AlisoBob
I've suggested it before.... ALL TTM customers should have started their own threads, and kept them current in "real time", to show the progress ( or lack of) in each of their bikes. That would be the only way to tell the "True Story".

If you want to sit and quietly wait months, anonymously, then your obviously comfortable with that too.

Anyone who has dealt with ANY fabricator knows that the squeeky wheel gets the grease.

Posted: April 19th, 2009, 11:28 pm
by zorak-2
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Posted: April 20th, 2009, 8:31 am
by CR500 4 Ever
AlisoBob wrote:I voted "No Scam"

Right now,its just delays.
This sounds like a bigger problem than just delays.
But, if you look at it...it really wasn’t a full brand new zero time motor that I got was it? The shifter shaft was boogered up, the flywheel thread on the crank needed some work, the rusty water stains inside water pump, the rod has a nick in it, center case thread chuncked and so on....Then all the other issues with the motor which made my Christmas/New Years trip suck.. I lost the excitement I once had for this bike....being in havasu with my family and friends for a week and a half and I could not get a decent ride without having to carry oil or the fear of blowing something up fucking sucks. I had to putt-putt around on a 125...that blew. Then we take apart the motor you built and more shit is found.....just a real sloppy assembly with metal shavings and the wrong piston installed. It’s all been a real let down in my opinion. Now the transmission is fucked up, whats next? I call you and I get a quick response “its not my fault” without even
a second to think about it and say well maybe after all the other thinks that went wrong with the engine build..it could be that something was left out, just like the clutch actuator seal. It may very well be a honda mistake but with the past….im not so sure. I was told by you on several occations that the bike was ported just like yours, well guess what….bob and I took my bike apart today….guess what, you lied to me about that…it is 100% stock….matched it right up with my old motor…how do you explain that mike..

Posted: April 20th, 2009, 8:42 am
by AlisoBob
CR500 4 Ever wrote: This sounds like a bigger problem than just delays.
I dont know where the parts for this motor came from, but I do know this much.

1. The water pump cover looked 100% new, but when we pulled it off there were some rust stains inside. Was it "used", Yes. Is that a big deal? No... its just an accessory.

2. The motor leaked oil, turns out Mike fudged up the gasket. Oh well, shit happen when your rushing.

3. "The motor wasnt ported" This build was running behind. Pecker and I went to Mikes shop to finish the bike. Mike said he didnt have time to clean the casting flash out the ports, and clean out the junction between where the jug and the sleeve meet. This was the extent of the "porting", and I beleive it was tossed in for free anyways..... Again, not the end of the world.

I see the delivery schedule as the big issue.

Posted: April 20th, 2009, 9:16 am
by dannygraves
ok, so who the fuck are these guys (bodger and cr500 4 ever)?? I never see any posts from either of them and now they are eating this ttm shit up...
Do the 2 of you have anything usefull to contribute to this board?! I don't believe I have seen either of you help a hoon w/ tuning Q's, point some hoons at some good secret riding spots, send a broke hoon some old parts to get his bike going?
If you're not going to contribute, then STFU!
Mike might have had issues on this build and might be far behind on a pile of builds, but I've been out riding w/ the dude, I've broken bread with the guy, he has sent me free parts, he has fed me and helped me w/ tons of welding and fab advise... He has contributed to the community we have here, you guys have not. Who is the real scammer???

Posted: April 20th, 2009, 9:19 am
by Exnav
dannygraves wrote:ok, so who the fuck are these guys (bodger and cr500 4 ever)?? I never see any posts from either of them and now they are eating this ttm shit up...
Do the 2 of you have anything usefull to contribute to this board?! I don't believe I have seen either of you help a hoon w/ tuning Q's, point some hoons at some good secret riding spots, send a broke hoon some old parts to get his bike going?
If you're not going to contribute, then STFU!
Mike might have had issues on this build and might be far behind on a pile of builds, but I've been out riding w/ the dude, I've broken bread with the guy, he has sent me free parts, he has fed me and helped me w/ tons of welding and fab advise... He has contributed to the community we have here, you guys have not. Who is the real scammer???
Finally someone said it and it was by someone who has been around this site since day one.

Posted: April 20th, 2009, 9:29 am
by lewisclan
WOW Ive been gone for a few days and come back to WTF

Posted: April 20th, 2009, 9:37 am
by Travis
lewisclan wrote:WOW Ive been gone for a few days and come back to WTF
You have missed it then. There are about 6 threads about the same thing and I think 2 people are running the risk of getting banned from the banned site. It is Ridiculous. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: April 20th, 2009, 9:41 am
by dannygraves
lewisclan wrote:WOW Ive been gone for a few days and come back to WTF
Dude, Jay, you know you can't just up and leave for a few days, this place goes to shit real quick :wink:

Posted: April 20th, 2009, 9:54 am
by lewisclan
dannygraves wrote:
lewisclan wrote:WOW Ive been gone for a few days and come back to WTF
Dude, Jay, you know you can't just up and leave for a few days, this place goes to shit real quick :wink:
I GUESS SO EVERYONE NEEDS TO CALM DOWN

Posted: April 20th, 2009, 10:01 am
by Travis
lewisclan wrote:
I GUESS SO EVERYONE NEEDS TO CALM DOWN
No kidding! Nice to come back and the house be upside down isn't it. :lol:
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