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Did I get ripped Off Trany Issue

Posted: April 14th, 2009, 3:38 pm
by honda02
My trany in my 1995 CR500 was trashed I found a guy that been building them for a while he sold me a trany out of a 1986 CR500 he told me it has a wider ratio trans than the one I have so I purchased it from him.
He also told me he sending a Kit to install it in my 1995 cases including a new Counter shaft sprocket he said my clucth basket will work and so on.

Is this true or I just lost $159.00 for thoses parts all gears and shafts shifter forks and shifter drum.

The trans looked almost new did I just get ripped off or will this 1986 trans work in my 1995 cases with my 1995 clucth.

Posted: April 14th, 2009, 3:57 pm
by 100hp honda
your punctuation is horrible, cant hardly understand a thing you tried to say :? . i thought i was bad but damn

Sorry

Posted: April 14th, 2009, 4:06 pm
by honda02
I trying wacth my kids at the same time and fat fingers while typing is not a good thing to have.
100hp honda wrote:your punctuation is horrible, cant hardly understand a thing you tried to say :? . i thought i was bad but damn

Posted: April 14th, 2009, 4:52 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
if you got the sprocket, and the bearing for the output shaft then it'll all fit fine, 86+95 have the same ratio tho

Posted: April 14th, 2009, 5:05 pm
by ISBB
u sure bout that cuz danny put an 87 in mine and its close ratio :D

Posted: April 14th, 2009, 5:55 pm
by nmdesertrider
The only thing you got screwed on was that the 95 and 86 have the same ratios. It will work fine in your 95 cases.


Just a side note but replacing all the gears costs about 550$.
Don't ask me how I know :cry:

Posted: April 14th, 2009, 6:39 pm
by honda02
I was going to redo my 1995 trany but the guy thats doing my motor work told me I mite be better off finding a used trany instead it cost $159.00 including shipping thats why I went this route.

After rebuilding the crank top end Ect this AF is turnning into a money pit project I hope it will be well worth all the headachs.
nmdesertrider wrote:The only thing you got screwed on was that the 95 and 86 have the same ratios. It will work fine in your 95 cases.


Just a side note but replacing all the gears costs about 550$.
Don't ask me how I know :cry:

Posted: April 14th, 2009, 8:08 pm
by nmdesertrider
I got a used tranny too but the dogs were worn so I just decided to go new.

Believe me I understand being a little short on cash for bike projects.

Posted: April 14th, 2009, 9:55 pm
by britincali
ISBB wrote:u sure bout that cuz danny put an 87 in mine and its close ratio :D


87 is not a close ratio.

Posted: April 15th, 2009, 7:32 am
by hoofarted
honda02 wrote: this AF is turnning into a money pit project I hope it will be well worth all the headachs.
If its done right, I am sure you will be happy. :)

Posted: April 15th, 2009, 8:24 am
by oggo69
why do i get the feeling i know where u got the tranny from ... was it an ebay shop ??

Posted: April 15th, 2009, 1:30 pm
by ISBB
britincali wrote:
ISBB wrote:u sure bout that cuz danny put an 87 in mine and its close ratio :D


87 is not a close ratio.
could have sworn it was.. ehh ohh well.

Reading

Posted: April 15th, 2009, 2:20 pm
by honda02
After doing some more reading and from others I feel good about the trany I purchased it should all work out now.

Posted: April 16th, 2009, 4:49 pm
by dannygraves
ISBB wrote:u sure bout that cuz danny put an 87 in mine and its close ratio :D
no, that was an '89

Posted: April 16th, 2009, 4:52 pm
by dannygraves
you might have issues with the output shaft bearing, seal, collar, etc. but you should be able to use your '95 counter shaft and just put all the gears from the '86 on it. the mainshaft will be just fine and work with a newer clutch no problem.

Posted: April 16th, 2009, 4:56 pm
by dannygraves
84-87+93-'01 were the same wide ratio, '88-'92 were close ratio.
'86 and '87 have the same counter shaft and sprocket setup, '85 and '84 have unique clutch and sprocket setups and '88+ all had the same shafts and sprockets, just different 4th and 5th gears.
the '86 and '87 countershaft was a different diameter and had fewer splines. the diameter is the big problem since the bearing is different, the seal is different, the seal collar and seal behind the collar are different. I can't remember right now, but I don't think the O.D. of the c/s bearing and seal were the same, which would mean you cannot you use that '86 counter shaft

Posted: April 16th, 2009, 5:01 pm
by dannygraves
ok, so I just checked and on both the OD of the bearing is 54mm and the seal is 40mm, so you just need to order teh bearing, collar, seal and o-ring for and '86 an it will work.

Posted: April 16th, 2009, 7:13 pm
by Roostius_Maximus