The "Y"

Post by **AlisoBob** » August 17th, 2007, 3:44 pm

Here are several examples...

Theres a few more versions that I dont have photos of, like the S/H "Billet" version.

Hands down , I think the winner is this one.... and asthetics have nothing to do with it.

Note the many different plains that the pieces join on. There is not one single "Butt" joint to be seen. The loads are distributed out , and not concentrated at any one connection.

This is Uncle Crackers brother, and my welder... Ron.

2 Time NHRA Sport Compact World Champion

http://www.nhrasportcompact.com/2007/dr ... ummus.html

He has more than enough talent and resources to make available at his Racecar fabrication shop a handcrafted "Y" like shown above... Question is.... How much will it be, and how much are folks willing to pay?

Like anything else, the more he makes, the cheaper it will be for all of us.

Cracker is doing a Gen. 3, I'm doing a Gen 4. I want to be able to either provide kits, or frame building services for these two platforms. The long term goal of this site is to keep CR500 motors running forever. Obviously there will be Gen 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 frames to deal with someday.

I want something cost effective, S/H can keep the $16.5 k market all sewn up for themselves.

I want riders to be able find a doner bike, and know that even with limited skills, that THEY can build the bike of there dreams...

I havent contacted Ron yet regarding this..... I'll keep you all posted!

iggys-amsoil · Post by **iggys-amsoil** » August 17th, 2007, 3:57 pm

As for the winning pic. I would still plate the front and back. Yeah you know why.

Here's one of Zerofear66's gen2

Post by **AlisoBob** » August 17th, 2007, 4:00 pm

Thanks Igg.....

BUT

The "Y" itself never fails, its usualy the connection at the end of the downtube, right where the tops of those gussets stop, focusing the loads even more.

Distribution is the key......

iggys-amsoil · Post by **iggys-amsoil** » August 17th, 2007, 4:10 pm

Yeah, I know, I'm just paranoid since that happened to me.

Just like in AC "Distribution"

lewisclan · Post by **lewisclan** » August 17th, 2007, 5:37 pm

Love it

Ported&Polished · Post by **Ported&Polished** » August 17th, 2007, 10:49 pm

Seems to me this site could blow up as the home built AF leader. Best stuff I've read and seen compiled into some good posts.

Post by **AlisoBob** » August 17th, 2007, 10:52 pm

YUP......

Uncle Cracker · Post by **Uncle Cracker** » August 19th, 2007, 11:01 am

I pick up my donor bike tomorrow (02 cr 250r) I will get it by the shop for Ron to look at and decide what is the best course of action for the "Y". I will need to take my 500 motor out or get a jug and case. We are working on that right now. What ever we do I will post detailed pics of the whole thing. I will keep you posted. I would like to have this done by Oct. 1

Post by **AlisoBob** » August 19th, 2007, 11:03 am

Uncle Cracker wrote:...and decide what is the best course of action for the "Y".

lewisclan · Post by **lewisclan** » August 20th, 2007, 8:31 am

Do you need a motor to get it mocked up I got one if you need to borrow one

lewisclan · Post by **lewisclan** » August 20th, 2007, 8:35 am

iggys-amsoil wrote:As for the winning pic. I would still plate the front and back. Yeah you know why.

Here's one of Zerofear66's gen2

Mikes bike is spotless, this is the guy that we bought Cams bike from and that one was the cleanest bike I had ever seen out side of the show room floor. paid the asking price

Post by **AlisoBob** » August 20th, 2007, 10:15 am

lewisclan wrote:....paid the asking price

Brit says: "Sucker!"

lewisclan · Post by **lewisclan** » August 20th, 2007, 10:22 am

I knew that was coming

britincali · Post by **britincali** » August 20th, 2007, 10:23 am

lewisclan wrote:I knew that was coming

Good 'ole predicatable bob

I paid full asking for something this weekend without even haggling

Post by **AlisoBob** » August 20th, 2007, 10:27 am

5 oz of some sticky sensimillia?

britincali · Post by **britincali** » August 20th, 2007, 10:34 am

AlisoBob wrote:5 oz of some sticky sensimillia?

I aint tellin yet....

TheSandMan · Post by **TheSandMan** » August 20th, 2007, 10:37 am

lewisclan · Post by **lewisclan** » August 20th, 2007, 10:40 am

thats got ta cost some coin

lewisclan · Post by **lewisclan** » August 20th, 2007, 10:41 am

I think I may know

britincali · Post by **britincali** » August 20th, 2007, 10:50 am

lewisclan wrote:I think I may know

Keep it quiet, I want bob to squirm LOL

MICK · Post by **MICK** » August 21st, 2007, 10:50 am

Some great looking downtubes pictured here. But how many of you have actually had a frame failure?

What would be included in a "kit". Y-pipe obviously, properly fitted airbox maybe? Pipe and silencer? Off road tank of choice maybe? If a person could buy these parts of this caliber for say...less then $2000. I think it would pick up a good market not yet tapped by SH.

Mik329 · Post by **Mik329** » October 3rd, 2007, 9:51 pm

AlisoBob wrote:
Uncle Cracker wrote:...and decide what is the best course of action for the "Y".

This is just plain bitchin! Anyone know if this guy will do another one or at least sell the "Y" ?

moto863 · Post by **moto863** » October 4th, 2007, 6:19 pm

On my 01 donor I had a friend of mine CNC a replacement Y piece. I don't have any pics at the moment, but I can take a few over the weekend and post.

HrcRacing · Post by **HrcRacing** » October 10th, 2007, 3:07 pm

I saw this over on the "other" forum. You guys out West have some serious fabrication and welding skills.

The guy bent his own cradle pieces and CNC'd the Y and the lower mounts. He also did the welding and had it heat treated before and after welding.

Pretty impressive work.

Post by **AlisoBob** » October 10th, 2007, 3:27 pm

I saw that and think its pretty cool...... but the inner voice keeps telling me ...."These are just dirtbikes..."

My Gen 3 conversion dosent require any cutting of the cradle, and only modest reworking of the "Y"..... With a 125 as a starting point, you do what you gotta do!

Not as fancy or high tech, but in the reach of more folks I think.

Yea... lots of indusrty and machinery in Cali makes anything possible!

BannedCR500Riders.com

The "Y"

The "Y"