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HELP! 94 SUMO build coming soon, but have some ???s first

Posted: February 3rd, 2009, 6:53 pm
by LAYNFRM
gonna be buying and converting a 94 CR500 to a street tard as soon as my 450X motard sells. does anyone know if rear hubs from ANY newer bikes will work with this swingarm setup? i really want the carrozzeria wheels because they sell them anodized red. i found them for 450's, and carrozzeria said the front would bolt up and i can just get some new wheel spacers made for the rear. does anyone know if that is just them trying to sell wheels, or if it will actuall work. i'd like to find out before dropping a lot of cash on wheels that can't be returned since i want them in red.

did they change the hubs a certain year? i checked bikebandit, and the part numbers changed and gained a few numbers in length. everything else seemed to have changed too as if they changed to a new part numbering system or something.

if i have to, i'll just go with some excels again, but i can't even find excel SUMO wheels for a 94 CR500... i don't want to have to get a set of factory hubs re-laced for a set of motard wheels either.

any help would be greatly appreciated

Posted: February 4th, 2009, 10:07 am
by LAYNFRM
nobody knows?

Posted: February 4th, 2009, 10:18 am
by pstoffers
I would say its possible to put any wheel on your bike. You would have to get bearings that match the od of your axel and make spacers.
Skies the limit.......

Posted: February 4th, 2009, 1:13 pm
by LAYNFRM
i just talked to jeff at east coast wheels. he is gonna machine some spacers for me when i order the wheels. problem solved.

Posted: February 4th, 2009, 1:21 pm
by AlisoBob
LAYNFRM wrote:i just talked to jeff at east coast wheels. he is gonna machine some spacers for me when i order the wheels. problem solved.
Problem not solved... I think the disc offset and diameter is different

Posted: February 4th, 2009, 1:25 pm
by britincali
And the axle size.

Posted: February 4th, 2009, 2:48 pm
by AlisoBob
pstoffers wrote: You would have to get bearings that match the od of your axel and make spacers.
You do read the Queens english, dont you Brit?

Posted: February 4th, 2009, 2:49 pm
by britincali
:lol: :lol:

Posted: February 5th, 2009, 12:23 am
by xtremeslide
LAYNFRM wrote:i just talked to jeff at east coast wheels. he is gonna machine some spacers for me when i order the wheels. problem solved.
Nice!

Posted: February 5th, 2009, 1:22 pm
by LAYNFRM
xtremeslide wrote:
LAYNFRM wrote:i just talked to jeff at east coast wheels. he is gonna machine some spacers for me when i order the wheels. problem solved.
Nice!
i was pretty pumped when he said he could machine the spacers for me. that saved me a lot of trouble with having to hope the offset would clear the chain, and have a friend of mine's shop do them.

i'm going to look at the bike sunday, and if it's in pretty good shape (engine/frame/suspension wise), then i'll be coming home with a new bike. then i'll start an official build thread

Posted: February 9th, 2009, 5:16 pm
by Wheelie-Gene
pstoffers wrote:I would say its possible to put any wheel on your bike. You would have to get bearings that match the od of your axel and make spacers.
I've always found it easier to adapt the wheels/bearings to the CR's axle. But then again I machined the VFR axle to match up to the CR's forks. It's a big guessing game. Someting that works for one set of wheels/bearings won't work on another similar situtation.
I prefer using Honda VFR/VTR/F1/F2/F-whatever wheels on Honda conversions. I scored a set of used VFR rims, axles (axle), and brake hardware cheaper than a Sun rim/spoke sumo kit.
On my other bikes I laced in new rims on the old hubs.....and in my opinion Excell rims are pure junk. I prefer the rims made by the fine folks over at Sun.

Good luck on your build and post plenty of pics.

Posted: February 14th, 2009, 6:43 pm
by LAYNFRM
well, scratch what i said before. unless my buddy backs out, i'll be trading my 450X for a 05 GEN3 CR250, and throwing my 500 motor in there, and my motard wheels on it. he'll be doing the fabwork, and another friend's parent's machine shop will be doing the final welds.