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A Weak Foundation, Gen 3 250 + Nicks gen4 250 +*Video links*

Posted: November 15th, 2008, 3:28 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
I had decided to work from this 02 cr250 frame because it was the same as my mint 02 250, and i can prep it then steal all the goods from the nice one.

Canadian Dudes, did you know... If you buy a bike as "parts" even if it has no wheels, susp, seat, tank or bars, as long as it has an engine the border charges you min $200 for "IMPORTING a unregisterable vehicle". So i left the engine behind, it had the carb, jug and crank screwed by dirt, but i might still it later for 150us and part it out

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I got the rads too, one is mint, lh tweaked, but i'll get it back

Posted: November 15th, 2008, 4:23 pm
by robertg
I brought my bike across the border without a motor also because I didn't want to pay the RIV fee. The border guard at the 59 crossing said I wouldn't have to pay even if it had a motor. I guess it depends who you ask.

Posted: November 15th, 2008, 4:35 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
BASTARDS!

Posted: November 15th, 2008, 4:41 pm
by robertg
I think the vehicle has to have a "For Closed Course Competition Only" sticker on it, and you have to be a member of a sanctioned racing organization, to get away from paying the RIV. Or you just don't cross at Emerson.

Does that frame have s skid plate. I think I am going to make one for my bike.

Posted: November 15th, 2008, 6:49 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
it does, and its actually a decent one. when i get it off i'll send u measurements and get some pics

Posted: November 16th, 2008, 1:43 pm
by DesertCR
Man you guys have some stupid ass laws. I just took a small road trip to Calgary and the guard lady took my pepper spray at the border. I wonder when butter knives will be illegal?

Posted: November 16th, 2008, 1:59 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
they dont stop anything, they just create more outlaws

Posted: November 16th, 2008, 9:42 pm
by Balaclava
DesertCR wrote:Man you guys have some stupid ass laws. I just took a small road trip to Calgary and the guard lady took my pepper spray at the border. I wonder when butter knives will be illegal?
man you don't need pepper spray to roll into fckkin' calgary :roll:

Posted: November 17th, 2008, 6:31 am
by Roostius_Maximus
Correction, its a 2003

Posted: November 20th, 2008, 6:00 am
by Roostius_Maximus
So i got some pictures, Id pressed the frame tuesday and had it all fit in, didnt get to welding yesterday, food-poisoning was kicking my ass!
I really like how it turned out, never imagined it to be so easy, just warmed it with the tiger torch, mooved it .500, it returned .230 of that, and rests in place perfectly with an 1/8" room ahead of the troublesome waterpump bolt.
I have 86 cases coming for an engine i dont have plans for, but this mockup of the tall case makes me think that i could build that engine in this frame without making room in the Y section, it'd be close.
I'm not sure which jug i'm running yet, awaiting a newstyle one that i expect needs a sleeve, or this '88 one pictured. I really like how the port work in my '86 turned out, and might stick with the long reed.
I'm using the stock Forward and Lower engine bolts from the 250 engine.

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Posted: November 20th, 2008, 6:47 am
by AlisoBob
Roostius_Maximus wrote:.... never imagined it to be so easy, just warmed it with the tiger torch, mooved it .500, it returned .230 of that, and rests in place perfectly with an 1/8" room ahead of the troublesome waterpump bolt.
nice.....

:D

Posted: November 20th, 2008, 9:56 am
by Balaclava
holy shit that's friggin sweeet! i still have a hard time seeing how you managed to pull that off, cause it was certainly more difficult the way i did mine with the extensions, but i had to, it seemed there was no way around the water pump issue!? but yours is going to be 100% stock! damn thats nice!
When you were pressing it were you afraid it was going to snap ever?

Posted: November 20th, 2008, 10:07 am
by Roostius_Maximus
it pushed easy, and if it broke i could have welded it, i think it looks way stocker, and i was nervous of twisting otherwise

Posted: November 20th, 2008, 10:19 am
by Balaclava
ya welding fixes everything, and i agree it looks mad stock'ish'! haha awesome job millllla!

Posted: November 20th, 2008, 11:26 am
by Roostius_Maximus
robertg wrote:I think the vehicle has to have a "For Closed Course Competition Only" sticker on it, and you have to be a member of a sanctioned racing organization, to get away from paying the RIV. Or you just don't cross at Emerson.

Does that frame have s skid plate. I think I am going to make one for my bike.
i should have said that i crossed at Maida! its only 6 miles west of home and strait south 23kms.

Posted: November 20th, 2008, 11:47 am
by Roostius_Maximus
pictures of the insterts i made for the inside of the Y

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cross boarder shipping (to canada) FYI

Posted: November 20th, 2008, 2:08 pm
by Iceman
Last year I bought a 92 CR 250 parts (fle-bay).
Frame, radiators, triple clamps, footpegs and CDI, all being shipped from Minnisota to Calgary, Shipping UPS. (Won the items for less then $50 + shipping)

The package went to British Colombia, Washington, and back to Ontario.
UPS phone me and said that I needed to pay for RIV $200. Canadian Customs stopped the package. I said "why" they said because the frame has a serial number on it. I told them it was for competion use and they didn't give a "rat's ass".

So I agreed to pay the $200.
I didn't have the serial number, the guy I bought it from didn't have the serial number. So for UPS to look in the box and get the serial number they charged me $25 (and a customs agent has to be there). They look in the box and the serial number was worn abit and couldn't read 2 of the numbers correctly.

UPS said "now what do you want to do?"
I said "ship me my crap"
UPS said "they can't because of the frame"
I said "ship me everything but the frame"
UPS said "they can't split up the package"
I said "you figure it out"

End result, package was sent back to Minnisota and he refused it.
Sent back to Canada and Canadian Customs sent me a bill for disabling the frame. Filed that bill the same place my frame went.

Moral of the story, if there is a serial number on the frame you may be required to pay the $200 RIV fee. Get the serial number before shipping

And UPS IN CANADA EFFIN SUCK A$$
cost me
parts 50
shipping 75
two morons (1 UPS, 1 Customs agent) to look in a box $25

Posted: November 20th, 2008, 2:24 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
id read and told the officer the sn stamping, but never looked for the decal, and he never did use it becasue he wrote it as parts only, in the first pic u can see some other decal in its place. After all that crap and the charges to import it , i get it home and the F'n thing had been exported to the USA from Canada, DAMMIT!!! i could have saved that cash, and got the engine in! but who knows if it was exported properly. It says a bunch of crap in french and that and that it was built for canada

Posted: November 20th, 2008, 2:30 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
i had a customer send a bullydog downloader to get reflashed, ups whored it and tried to scam 140 from him, even tho it had all the paperwork about warranty it still had value, so i got them to deliver it in his name to a depot, and the lil honey there let us walk

Posted: November 20th, 2008, 8:56 pm
by Balaclava
holy shit those are some lame-ass customs stories! man i got an 02 250 rolling chassis coming to me right now!!! i'm freaking out about this shit! i already over paid for it let alone paying another 200$!!!! i ended up getting away with that fee when i bought my 06 450 in ND, but it took them like an hour and a half to figure out it was a closed course competition bike. and when they figured it out they were like ''oh sorry about that'' even though i repeatedly said ''it's a MX bike not a street bike''...FUCCCC! if i get screwed over on this frame i'm not gonna be happy...

Posted: November 20th, 2008, 9:32 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
if its from a state with a title it will be clearly stated in the paperwork IF you get that too

Posted: November 21st, 2008, 7:29 am
by Roostius_Maximus
while not welding i decided it was a good chance to rip into the 06 250f for my buddy Nick, heres the pair..
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Posted: November 21st, 2008, 9:44 am
by Mik329
Looks like one of those CRF250's is going to be my next build. Theres a few cheap ones around here and I think I'm going to pick one up and throw the engine on Ebay and get most my money back.

Posted: November 21st, 2008, 10:13 am
by AlisoBob
Roostius_Maximus wrote:Image
http://www.bannedcr500riders.com/board/ ... .php?t=894

Looks vaguely familiar.....

:headbang:

Posted: November 21st, 2008, 10:17 am
by Balaclava
the 2 stroke chassis is alot better looking. 250F's have that sickly high lower frame spare that i don't like...Hey I remember that shop...aren't you supposed to be working on engines roost?? :wink: