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Pomona Drags

Posted: November 6th, 2008, 9:10 am
by AlisoBob
Whos going????

Posted: November 6th, 2008, 6:43 pm
by lewisclan
are you ?

Posted: November 6th, 2008, 6:43 pm
by lewisclan
lets do it

Posted: November 7th, 2008, 8:10 am
by britincali
When?

Posted: November 7th, 2008, 9:55 am
by lewisclan
next weekend

Posted: November 7th, 2008, 10:02 am
by britincali
Im off :D

Posted: November 7th, 2008, 10:29 am
by lewisclan
whats up Bob are you wanting to go ?

Posted: November 7th, 2008, 10:30 am
by britincali
These are the top fuel bigboys rite?

Posted: November 7th, 2008, 12:39 pm
by pstoffers
HELL YA THEY ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: November 7th, 2008, 3:22 pm
by AlisoBob
C-Pecker and I are talking about playing hooky on Friday, and going... maybe Sat too....

I have Little League on Sundays...

Posted: November 7th, 2008, 5:30 pm
by britincali
Ill talk to tox but im pretty sure we could roll down on sat.

Posted: November 10th, 2008, 10:46 am
by teamdns
im in for friday....bob the boy going on saturday? if so ill bring eddie

Posted: November 10th, 2008, 2:32 pm
by AlisoBob
FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 14, 2008
Adult Admission $30.00
Junior Admission (6-12 years) $10.00
Adult Reserved Seat $40.00
Junior Reserved Seat (6-12 years) $20.00
Child Reserved Seat (5 years & under) $10.00

SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 15, 2008
Adult Admission $52.00
Junior Admission (6-12 years) $10.00
Adult Reserved Seat $62.00
Junior Reserved Seat (6-12 years) $24.00
Child Reserved Seat (5 years & under) $14.00

SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 16, 2008
Adult Admission $55.00
Junior Admission (6-12 years) $12.00
Adult Reserved Seat $65.00
Junior Reserved Seat (6-12 years) $24.00
Child Reserved Seat (5 years & under) $14.00

Brit , Friday is $30...... dont be so cheeeep.

Posted: November 10th, 2008, 2:59 pm
by britincali
Not a matter of being cheap its a matter of being broke :cry:

Posted: November 10th, 2008, 6:51 pm
by teamdns
brit......they have a petting zoo! so you have to go!


i've got your ticket cover....i need someone to laugh at :lol:

Posted: November 10th, 2008, 7:01 pm
by AlisoBob

Posted: November 10th, 2008, 7:15 pm
by pstoffers
:mrgreen: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

Posted: November 10th, 2008, 7:21 pm
by jbird_710
Nothing like the the burning smell of nitro-methane ANYTIME!

Or the ground shaking horsepower of a top fuel.

Posted: November 10th, 2008, 7:27 pm
by AlisoBob
In those fuel motors, I still find it quite remarkable that the wrist pin doesnt split the con rod..... right down the middle...... like this.

Image

Posted: November 10th, 2008, 8:19 pm
by Exnav
Some of this isn't entirely accurate anymore, but it's still pretty amazing.

Top Fuel Facts...

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Some real cool facts about top fuel dragsters I stumbled across.....

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* One dragster's 500-inch Hemi makes more horsepower then the first 8 rows at Daytona.

* Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1 1/2 gallons of nitro per second, the same rate of fuel consumption as a fully loaded 747 but with 4 times the energy volume.

* The supercharger takes more power to drive than a stock hemi makes.

* Even with nearly 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into nearly-solid form before ignition. Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock.

* Dual magnetos apply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.

* At stoichiometric (exact) 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture (for nitro), the flame front of nitromethane measures 7050 degrees F.

* Nitromethane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.

* Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After 1/2 way, the engine is dieseling from compression-plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting off its fuel flow.

* If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in those cylinders and then explodes with a force that can blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or blow the block in half.

* Dragsters twist the crank (torsionally) so far (20 degrees in the big end of the track) that sometimes cam lobes are ground offset from front to rear to re-phase the valve timing somewhere closer to synchronization with the pistons.

* To exceed 300mph in 4.5 seconds dragsters must accelerate at an average of over 4G's. But in reaching 200 mph well before 1/2 track, launch acceleration is closer to 8G's.

* If all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs $1000.00 per second.

* Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have read this sentence.

Did you know …

… that the nitromethane-powered engines of NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars produce approximately 7,000 horsepower, about 37 times that of the average street car?

… that one cylinder of the eight cylinders of a Top Fuel dragster or a Funny Car produces 750 horsepower, equaling the entire horsepower output of a NASCAR engine?

… that the gasoline-powered engines of NHRA Pro Stock cars produce about 1,200 horsepower, about eight times that of the average street car?

… that an NHRA Top Fuel dragster accelerates from 0 to 100 mph in less than .8-second, almost 11 seconds quicker than it takes a production Porsche 911 Turbo to reach the same speed?

… that an NHRA Top Fuel dragster leaves the starting line with a force nearly five times that of gravity, the same force of the space shuttle when it leaves the launching pad at Cape Canaveral?

… that an NHRA Funny Car is slowed by a reverse force more than seven times that of gravity when both parachutes deploy simultaneously?

… that NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars consume between four and five gallons of fuel during a quarter-mile run, which is equivalent to between 16 and 20 gallons per mile?

… that NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars use between 10 and 12 gallons of fuel for a complete pass, including the burnout, backup to the starting line, and quarter-mile run?

… that NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars travel the length of more than four football fields in less than five seconds?

… that NHRA Top Fuel dragsters can exceed 280 mph in just 660 feet?

… that from a standing start, NHRA Top Fuel dragsters accelerate faster than a jumbo jet, a fighter jet, and a Formula One race car?

… that a fuel pump for an NHRA Top Fuel dragster and Funny Car delivers 65 gallons of fuel per minute, equivalent to eight bathroom showers running at the same time?

… that the fuel-line pressure for NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars is between 400 and 500 pounds, about 20 times greater than the pressure on passenger-car fuel pumps?

… that depending on size and angle, the large rear wing on an NHRA Top Fuel dragster develops between 4,000 and 8,000 pounds of downforce?

… that the 17-inch rear tires used on NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars wear out after four to six runs, or about two miles? Some brands of passenger-car tires are guaranteed for 80,000 miles.

… that it takes just 15/100ths of a second for all 7,000 horsepower of an NHRA Top Fuel dragster engine to reach the rear wheels?

… that it's desirable for an NHRA Top Fuel dragster to race with its front wheels inches off the ground for about the first 200 feet of the run? This ensures proper weight transfer to the rear wheels, a crucial part of a good launch and quick run.

… that the nitromethane used to power the engines of NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars costs about $30 per gallon?

Posted: November 10th, 2008, 8:51 pm
by britincali
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


I might take a cruise to pomona on fri......

Posted: November 10th, 2008, 8:51 pm
by AlisoBob
Exnav wrote: Some real cool facts about top fuel dragsters I stumbled across.....

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* One dragster's 500-inch Hemi makes more horsepower then the first 8 rows at Daytona.

The first 8 rows ( 16 cars x 600hp) makes about 9600hp, more that a fuel motor

* Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1 1/2 gallons of nitro per second, the same rate of fuel consumption as a fully loaded 747 but with 4 times the energy volume.

A fueler consumes WAY more...... probably over 2 gps now.



* The supercharger takes more power to drive than a stock hemi makes.
True

* Even with nearly 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into nearly-solid form before ignition. Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock.
True

* Dual magnetos apply 44 amps to each spark plug.
True
* At stoichiometric (exact) 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture (for nitro), the flame front of nitromethane measures 7050 degrees F.
???
* Nitromethane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.
Hydrogen burns colorless.

* Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After 1/2 way, the engine is dieseling from compression-plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting off its fuel flow.
Sometimes true

* If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in those cylinders and then explodes with a force that can blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or blow the block in half.

No , if the exhaust pushrod fails, this will happen

* Dragsters twist the crank (torsionally) so far (20 degrees in the big end of the track) that sometimes cam lobes are ground offset from front to rear to re-phase the valve timing somewhere closer to synchronization with the pistons.

Possibly



















Posted: November 10th, 2008, 9:01 pm
by Exnav
Can't vouch for the authenticity. It's been floating around on the web for at least 10 years that I know of.

Posted: November 10th, 2008, 9:07 pm
by britincali
pstoffers wrote::mrgreen: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:


Fukin NUTS!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

Posted: November 10th, 2008, 9:10 pm
by AlisoBob
Consider that youtube clip for a second....

The exhaust timing is about 300 degrees, and the powerstroke is about 80.

That means for all that time, fuel is pooling behind the intake valve, waiting .....

:shock: