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gen 3 cr250 case / shock clearence

Posted: October 23rd, 2008, 8:54 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
Does anyone have a template for what amount of clearence needs to be made at the rear of the engine case to clear the shock/spring on an 02 cr250?

Width?
Depth?
Degree?

Posted: October 23rd, 2008, 9:48 pm
by davo77
My gen3 250 didnt require any clearancing :?
Are you running a heavier shock spring?

Posted: October 24th, 2008, 5:24 am
by Roostius_Maximus
Bone stock

Posted: October 24th, 2008, 8:18 am
by hoofarted
It shouldnt require any clearance...

Posted: October 24th, 2008, 8:19 am
by pimp559
Something ain't right, if its stock then maybe you have the linkage on wrong? Post a pic.

Posted: October 24th, 2008, 8:37 am
by Roostius_Maximus
sorry guys, i havnet got the 250 even out of the frame, but the 500 case is stripped and clean so I'm just wanting to machine the bushings, and see whats gotta be done before it goes back together

Posted: October 24th, 2008, 9:06 am
by teemtrubble
I haven't had that issue with the 250's and 450's. I have to clearance the 125's and don't know about the GEN4 250's yet it but, it sure looks like you have to.

Posted: October 24th, 2008, 9:17 am
by Roostius_Maximus
Thanks guys!

Posted: October 24th, 2008, 9:21 am
by HrcRacing
My gen 3 ('04 CR250 based) AF required no relieving either with the stock spring.

Didn't Bob post the part numbers for the bushings? Why machine them?

http://www.bannedcr500riders.com/board/ ... .php?t=990

Posted: October 24th, 2008, 9:41 am
by Roostius_Maximus
sorry, boring the case bushings

Posted: October 24th, 2008, 11:24 am
by dannygraves
my gen-4 250f was very close, but didn't need it with a stock spring.

shock

Posted: October 24th, 2008, 3:21 pm
by DPinDet
my Gen 3 250 (2004) did not require any clearancing with the 500 motor in it, and I am even running a heavier spring 5.4 kg.


DPinDet

Posted: October 24th, 2008, 3:35 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
alrite, I gotta get a spring to haul my 220lbs yet too

Posted: October 24th, 2008, 4:23 pm
by 100hp honda
hey mike while were on the subject, do you know if i will have any shock spring/case issues on a '05 450 if i use a 6.0 spring ? im not even sure ill need a 6.0 because i think +6 swingarm extension will be plenty long but i wanted to get my ducks in a row just in case a stock spring isnt strong enough

Posted: October 24th, 2008, 5:05 pm
by teemtrubble
100hp honda wrote:hey mike while were on the subject, do you know if i will have any shock spring/case issues on a '05 450 if i use a 6.0 spring ? im not even sure ill need a 6.0 because i think +6 swingarm extension will be plenty long but i wanted to get my ducks in a row just in case a stock spring isnt strong enough
Sorry I don't know but, I will know by next week. So hit me up about the middle of next week.

Posted: October 24th, 2008, 5:16 pm
by eyesky2002
100hp honda wrote:hey mike while were on the subject, do you know if i will have any shock spring/case issues on a '05 450 if i use a 6.0 spring ? im not even sure ill need a 6.0 because i think +6 swingarm extension will be plenty long but i wanted to get my ducks in a row just in case a stock spring isnt strong enough
I have a 6.0 and have a good 1/2" of clearance on my '04 450 frame!

Posted: October 29th, 2008, 4:44 am
by Mik329
I'm running a 5.7 on a gen 3 with no issues as well.

Posted: October 29th, 2008, 5:17 pm
by iggys-amsoil
5.9 here. I'm 220 no gear.

There are no part #s for the bushings because there not sold and come with a new case. :?

After one gets the sag set correctly or to there liking, with the bike on the stand rotate the spring so the gap on the spring is centered at the cases. :idea:

Something I need to recheck.

Posted: January 11th, 2009, 4:43 pm
by robertg
Does anyone know why the shock rubs the cases on a 125 and not the 250? Is the spring diameter larger on a 125? Mine is 88mm from what I remember. The linkage has a different part number also, so maybe the shock sits further back on the 125?

I'm just wondering because I bought some linkage from a 250 but I don't have it yet. I started with a 125 roller but then bought a 250 frame, but I couldn't install my motor without removing the shock.

Posted: January 11th, 2009, 7:25 pm
by Balaclava
robertg wrote:Does anyone know why the shock rubs the cases on a 125 and not the 250? Is the spring diameter larger on a 125? Mine is 88mm from what I remember. The linkage has a different part number also, so maybe the shock sits further back on the 125?

I'm just wondering because I bought some linkage from a 250 but I don't have it yet. I started with a 125 roller but then bought a 250 frame, but I couldn't install my motor without removing the shock.
I have yet to install my motor with my shock in place...i don't know how much clearance i have... :?

Posted: January 11th, 2009, 7:44 pm
by robertg
Can you measure the diameter of your shock spring? If a 250 shock is smaller, I think I will buy one.

Posted: January 11th, 2009, 8:08 pm
by Balaclava
outside diameter is 87mm and the inside diameter is 78mm...that's my rough measurement...that's on a stock yellow spring

Posted: January 11th, 2009, 8:16 pm
by pstoffers
My 02 & 03 shock spring rubbed the cases so I clearanced them :wink:

My 02 with 01 motor. Now mind you this is a SH that SH/AJ shipped out
to a customer with it rubbing the motor :roll: you can see the paint rubbed off the spring in the pic.
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My 03 with 86 motor
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Posted: January 11th, 2009, 8:43 pm
by 100hp honda
i dont get this. if your using stock spring on gen3 cr250 why does some rub and some dont ? :?:

Posted: January 11th, 2009, 8:50 pm
by pstoffers
They are all a little different... :wink: