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Got a quick question about a 2001 250r roller?

Posted: September 24th, 2008, 9:05 am
by Travis
How bad is the swap and what is it worth? Newly rebuilt forks and new plastic, new protaper bars and clamps like new front tire, 70% back tire, frame was completly wet sanded so it could be polished. It's close enough that I don't have to worry about shipping.

Posted: September 24th, 2008, 9:36 am
by dannygraves
I wouldn't go over $1500 for a bike of that age.
they are a relatively easy conversion, ask Andy (hoofarted) how his went.

Posted: September 24th, 2008, 9:40 am
by Travis
I am affraid Andy may be mad at me because I was going to buy his forks then used my own. His were a different size than mine though. Hopefully he's not upset.

Posted: September 24th, 2008, 9:43 am
by dannygraves
na, don't worry about him, he is just a little frustrated that there is 0 interest in his old chassis.

but ya, like I said in the PM, 1400 for a gen-2 roller is high especially in the market right now. for that kind of coin, pickup a super clean gen-3 complete for $2K, sell the motor, pipe, elecronics for $800 and have a better newer chassis for $200 less

Posted: September 24th, 2008, 10:05 am
by teemtrubble
GEN3

Posted: September 24th, 2008, 10:07 am
by dannygraves
thats what I'm talkin' about!
:cool:
gen-3 conversion is super easy too, unlike the gen-4 which is an uber PITA

Posted: September 24th, 2008, 10:14 am
by Exnav
I'm holding out for my own TT frame. :wink:

Posted: September 24th, 2008, 11:00 am
by Travis
We will see how cheap this guy gets. If not I will continue to run my gen 0 until someone feels sorry for me and donates one. :lol: :lol:

Posted: September 24th, 2008, 2:15 pm
by Balaclava
i'd bargain him way down to like 1000$ or less, and then do it...unless you have patience then hold out for something else...but i love gen 2 250s...my cousin rides an 02 and the bike is wicked...i would have no problem with that frame...but i bet you could get a gen 3 for that overkill price...i have never been on a gen 3 250, so i have no idea how much better they are...

Posted: September 24th, 2008, 2:33 pm
by teemtrubble
Balaclava wrote:i'd bargain him way down to like 1000$ or less, and then do it...unless you have patience then hold out for something else...but i love gen 2 250s...my cousin rides an 02 and the bike is wicked...i would have no problem with that frame...but i bet you could get a gen 3 for that overkill price...i have never been on a gen 3 250, so i have no idea how much better they are...
"BIG DIFFERENCE"

And don't forget the availability on aftermarket stuff

Posted: September 24th, 2008, 2:38 pm
by dannygraves
hands down, I would do a gen-3 unless I was only like $200 into a gen-2 roller.
even if not for the handl;ing and improved shock and updated forks, there is also the availability of specific parts. for a gen-3 you could walk into your local bike shop and find almost any chassis part for a '02-'07 cr250. '00-'01, not so much.

Posted: September 24th, 2008, 4:06 pm
by Balaclava
cool^

after hearing that i would wait and get a gen 3...only thing that would make sense...you can find gen 3 250's for good prices...

Posted: September 24th, 2008, 4:39 pm
by JBaze
I just finished my Gen 2 from an 01 CR250. The conversion was easy. But the availability of things like plastics is going to get limited. Other than things like that, I have seen plenty of stuff available. Even the plastics. One thing to keep in mind overall, not to be a naysayer, but the cr250 was discontinued, the 500 was discontinued 8 model years ago. So there will come a time when parts for both of these bikes will be hard to come by. I don't what the prices are like where you are, but for the bikes around here an 01 250 still brings 2500 to 2000. Gen 1's are going for 1200 and up, as far as the 450's, you can't touch one for under $3000. IMO if you can get a gen 1 or 2 for a reasonable price and do your conversion then do it. Any Alu. framed conversion will out handle your steelie. Personally, I would love to do a gen3 or 4, but the cost of it, outweighs any performance enhancements if any that I would notice. Build what you can afford add oil and fuel then enjoy.

Posted: September 25th, 2008, 4:54 am
by atank
I like the Gen3's also, I am looking at a 2005 crf250 with a bad motor for $1800.

Posted: September 25th, 2008, 7:38 am
by hoofarted
Travis wrote:I am affraid Andy may be mad at me because I was going to buy his forks then used my own. His were a different size than mine though. Hopefully he's not upset.
Nah - I aint mad at ya! just tryin to sell off my parts that I dont need any longer. See my build for the Gen2 to get an idea of what you're facing. I just finished mine and took her out for a quick spin...big difference. cant wait to do a real ride to really compare. If its just a roller, try not to pay over 800. good luck!

Posted: September 25th, 2008, 8:13 am
by dannygraves
atank wrote:I like the Gen3's also, I am looking at a 2005 crf250 with a bad motor for $1800.
ding ding ding! go over there w/ $1500 and wave it under his nose. even a basket case gen-3 motor could fetch around $500. I got $450 for the one that was in my gen-3 and it had tons of JB, I kept the electronics and carb, shit canned the jug with a huge gouge in it and sold the head, pipe and silencer. I ended up making $450 and getting the complete '03 electronics and gave the carb to a buddy to run on his LT250.
if you peiced it out and sold the carb, electronics and had a useable jug, you could easily make $700-$800 selling off the un-needed parts.
if you have the cash to front for it...... DO IT!

Posted: September 25th, 2008, 8:24 am
by atank
Understood Danny!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: September 25th, 2008, 9:13 am
by Balaclava
a 2005 crf 250 is a gen 3?

Posted: September 25th, 2008, 9:20 am
by dannygraves
shit, I didn't notice the "F" :oops:

Posted: September 30th, 2008, 11:35 pm
by Travis
Found a couple more bikes local. Cheaper this time and they both run.

A 2000 model $1000

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And a 98 model $1200

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$2000 for both. What do you guys think?

Posted: October 1st, 2008, 3:29 am
by atank
Offer $1800 cash in hand:
1. ride the piss out of them, first one to blow transplant bike! :) or
2. sell those engines, $500 - + each, then take the cash build your AF500
sell the other bike, should only have minimum money invested. Either way it seems to be a win, win situation :D

Posted: October 1st, 2008, 9:44 am
by Travis
Here is the de3scription he sent with the bikes.

98 has slip on procircuit pipe and jeeting to match. new bars and clutch lever. 00 has full fmf pipe and jetting. new bars and cluth also. both could use a back tire but they are not bald yet. both run great the 00 has had some port work and is a lot faster than the 98. you can come and ride both. 2000 for both or $1200 for the 98 and $1000 for the 00. they plastic is faded on the 00 and rear fender is shorter.

Posted: October 1st, 2008, 9:52 am
by Balaclava
2000$ would be awesome for both...totally worth it...plastic is nothing, you can get new decals, and tires are fuck all! go for it...

Posted: October 1st, 2008, 10:11 am
by Travis
The only bad thing is I don't have the $2000 I guess I need to sell something.

Posted: October 1st, 2008, 10:22 am
by Balaclava
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