Gen 1 A/F Conversion Drawings and Instructions!!

Ported&Polished · Post by **Ported&Polished** » August 12th, 2007, 11:27 am

That looks just awesome! What more could you ask for. Some welding and stuff later, and you'll be riding it!

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » August 12th, 2007, 11:38 am

Ported&Polished wrote:That looks just awesome! What more could you ask for. Some welding and stuff later, and you'll be riding it!

monday it gets the welding (by a pro, no bird crap welds on my AF). Then I'm going to polish the whole frame. I prefer the bare look, but the last owner polished the main spars and the swingarm, so I might as well finish the job.

I got lucky, the last guy replaced all of the bearings on the chassis last year when he rebuilt the motor and had it all done by the stealer.
so, I'm almost there!
That bolt isn't long enough, so it looks like I will be making the drive up to nevada bolt to get the proper bolt, and if they have any that look really good and oem like, I might buy enough to include one with each kit.

Post by **AlisoBob** » August 12th, 2007, 11:40 am

Stoffers told me he converted his '03 ( I think) in 7 hours from a running 250 to running 500.

He bought it new, only had it a few weeks before he did the conversion. Sold the motor for $1k..... that = $5.5k roller....

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » August 12th, 2007, 11:44 am

AlisoBob wrote:Stoffers told me he converted his '03 ( I think) in 7 hours from a running 250 to running 500.

He bought it new, only had it a few weeks before he did the conversion. Sold the motor for $1k..... that = $5.5k roller....

NICE!
does he have a lathe and mill and tig welder?
I spend 7 hours in just mock ups and chassis maintenance stuff!

lewisclan · Post by **lewisclan** » August 12th, 2007, 12:16 pm

I thought it was 5 hrs

lewisclan · Post by **lewisclan** » August 12th, 2007, 2:59 pm

dannygraves wrote:
Ported&Polished wrote:That looks just awesome! What more could you ask for. Some welding and stuff later, and you'll be riding it!
That bolt isn't long enough, so it looks like I will be making the drive up to nevada bolt to get the proper bolt, and if they have any that look really good and oem like, I might buy enough to include one with each kit.

great pick me up 2 . thanks Danny

Post by **AlisoBob** » August 12th, 2007, 3:06 pm

lewisclan wrote: great pick me up 2 . thanks Danny

Does this mean you bought Toymakers, $450 "Special" of the week?

( BTY.. this is the 4000th post of our site! )

lewisclan · Post by **lewisclan** » August 12th, 2007, 3:24 pm

no I have not bought it yet but to tell ya the truth I am thinking about it just not sure about all the parts its missing or that will need replaced?
but there is another gen 1 in the lewisclan future I just thought I could build 2 just as easy as 1

Post by **AlisoBob** » August 12th, 2007, 3:33 pm

lewisclan wrote: I just thought I could build 2 just as easy as 1

Yup, as long as you have the engines....

Heres a few motor donor bikes near me....

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/mcy/369952291.html

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/mcy/390202646.html

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/mcy/368906440.html

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/mcy/390073409.html

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/mcy/391719251.html

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/mcy/393359599.html

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » August 12th, 2007, 5:35 pm

so you guys know, any motor '85-'01 will fit. the '88 and older need the rear bushings bored out (or like me replaced with the bushings from the 250 donor). The '85-'86 coil bolts directly and doesn't need the adaptor (same bolt pattern as the 250 coil) and the head stay bolt holes have enough play to also fit the short rod motors. its tight, but works.

lewisclan · Post by **lewisclan** » August 12th, 2007, 5:40 pm

looks like mine will be a 94 motor & maybe a 89

Ported&Polished · Post by **Ported&Polished** » August 12th, 2007, 8:35 pm

I think we need a constantly updated list of 97 up 250's available. Please list any you find, that way when the great deals come up, we will know where to look. I looked on fleabay today and found some but no great deals.

Post by **AlisoBob** » August 12th, 2007, 11:09 pm

You dont look very hard... Right in your own backyard

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/mcy/394670346.html

2001 CR250R $1200

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » August 13th, 2007, 8:28 am

Ported&Polished wrote:I think we need a constantly updated list of 97 up 250's available. Please list any you find, that way when the great deals come up, we will know where to look. I looked on fleabay today and found some but no great deals.

Craigs list is the best place to find cheap bikes which the owners don't know the value of.
I got my '97 off craigs list, the guy was asking $1000, and when I called him he said some guy offered him $500, so I showed up an hour later with $900 cash.

Ported&Polished · Post by **Ported&Polished** » August 13th, 2007, 11:13 am

Sweet, I will watch craigslist then!

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » August 13th, 2007, 2:39 pm

ok guys, I just picked it up from the welder, looks great. I snapped a shot with my camera phone, I'll try to get some better shots tonight.

M.F.D.B. · Post by **M.F.D.B.** » August 13th, 2007, 2:42 pm

Hope its square!!

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » August 13th, 2007, 2:56 pm

he tacked them with the motor in, then pulled the motor and finished. Tonight I'm going to polish the rest of the frame, then its assembly time!

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » August 14th, 2007, 7:39 am

here you go
I started polishign the left side, which is why it looks a little weird in the pic.

M.F.D.B. · Post by **M.F.D.B.** » August 14th, 2007, 9:47 am

Will you put that dam motor in already?? We need to get that thing on the dirt so we can go back to watching you eat crap all day long, it gets boring only watching Brit...HAHAHA

M.F.D.B. · Post by **M.F.D.B.** » August 14th, 2007, 11:00 am

EXACTLY!! Like they say, "Ryde it, dont Clyde it"...HAHAHAHA

Ported&Polished · Post by **Ported&Polished** » August 14th, 2007, 5:33 pm

So the only welding needed for the conversion is the two motor mounts and a pipe mount relocation? What is the big piece on the side of the frame with two bolt holes for? I understand what the spacers on the swingarm do.

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » August 14th, 2007, 6:43 pm

Ported&Polished wrote:So the only welding needed for the conversion is the two motor mounts and a pipe mount relocation? What is the big piece on the side of the frame with two bolt holes for? I understand what the spacers on the swingarm do.

the coil. That bracket allows you to use your 500 coil.

lewisclan · Post by **lewisclan** » August 15th, 2007, 11:41 am

Danny when can you send me a set, did you get the right lenght bolts yet ?

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » August 15th, 2007, 1:22 pm

lewisclan wrote:
Danny when can you send me a set, did you get the right lenght bolts yet ?

The machine shop started monday, I had them make some minor changes, so they should be PERFECT.
I just came back from nevada bolt and got some bolts. Its like pulling teeth to find anything metric. its a 170mm, so it will be a little long, they didn't ahve a 160 and its black grade 10.9 and I got matching nuts and washers. I would have bought enough for all the kits, but at $4.10 ea I don't have the money right now. I will get my motor installed tonight and get some pics for you.
The kit ETA next week sometime.
When I hear the actual day, I will let you know. but even figuring in shipping time, etc. you should have them within 2 weeks.

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Gen 1 A/F Conversion Drawings and Instructions!!