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AF weight
Posted: August 24th, 2008, 3:00 pm
by eyesky2002
Has anybody weighed their AF to see what the fighting weight is? I just did mine..... 253lbs full of fuel and ready to roll
Seems kinda on the fat side

Re: AF weight
Posted: August 24th, 2008, 3:28 pm
by kkvslayer
eyesky2002 wrote:Has anybody weighed their AF to see what the fighting weight is? I just did mine..... 253lbs full of fuel and ready roll
Seems kinda on the fat side


really? I would of thought a steely weighed less than that
Posted: August 24th, 2008, 3:47 pm
by Exnav
Dry weights of the steelies was about 225lbs.
Posted: August 24th, 2008, 3:57 pm
by JBaze
I haven't weighed mine. When I am pushing it around it actually feels heavier than the steelie, but when I'm riding it, it feels like a 125 with helium injected into the frame!
Posted: August 24th, 2008, 6:18 pm
by eyesky2002
Exnav wrote:Dry weights of the steelies was about 225lbs.
Manual say 222.7 for the steelie and 227lbs for the 450 4 stroker, Sh says 213.8lbs all dry.
I guess when you add in the fluid weight maybe my huge ass wheels, tires and heavy duty duty tubes it makes up for some of it

Posted: August 25th, 2008, 4:43 pm
by MICK
That sounds right in the ballpark to me. I cheat and never weigh my bike with gas despite the fact it makes much more sense to do so. Wet with no gas my '03 Service Honda weighed 232 lbs. What is it like 6.6 lbs per gallon of fuel? Or is that water? Anyways that makes it about 245lbs full of gas with the OEM tank. Weighed on the same scales a '05 CRF450 weighs 242 lbs wet with no fuel. On the lighter side of things a KTM 200MXC weighs 224 lbs. You shouldn't pay attention to the exact weights of these bikes as different scales often produce slightly different results. What's significant about weighing these on the same set of scales is it reflects how each bike compares to one another. You'll notice a 500AF is closer in weight to a 200MXC than it is a 450. I continue to read magazines that print 450 weights in their "Dry Weight" meaning not a drop of oil or water. No coolant, motor oil, fork / shock oil and curtainly no fuel. However this is not mentioned. Unless you were to weigh bikes yourself like I do you're led to beleive these are actual operating weights. They're flat lying. To date, my 500AF is one of the lightest bikes I've ever ridden short of a 125 MXer. That's not an opinion or perceived belief. It's a fact.
Posted: August 25th, 2008, 7:25 pm
by atank
500 pounds with my large ass on it

Posted: August 25th, 2008, 8:22 pm
by nmdesertrider
we weighed them and the 500 motor was 8 pounds less than the 450f
Posted: August 25th, 2008, 8:36 pm
by MICK
I figured about 8-10lbs between the two motors. I'd like to weigh a Gen-4 or 125 framed 500AF conversion. I'm sure they're 3-5 pounds lighter than a Gen-3. Just 15 lbs lighter than most 450s

20 lbs lighter than some others. But the magazines say it's really too close to tell.
...If I hit them in the head with a 15 pound dumb bell I'd bet they'd know it

Posted: August 25th, 2008, 8:39 pm
by teemtrubble
I'm not telling....

Posted: August 25th, 2008, 8:50 pm
by MICK
Well actually, I don't just want to know what somebody's scales says a 125 based AF weighs. Like a dyno you have to use the same set of scales to compare different bikes. But what somebody with the right tools could do is weigh a 250R/450F based AF and a 125R/250F framed 500AF and see what the difference is.
You haven't already done this before have you Mike? I bet it's never crossed your mind...

Posted: August 26th, 2008, 7:52 am
by AJ
Mick, the 2004 CR500AF LE's (CR125 chassis)
weighed basically the same as the 2004 CR500AF (Cr250 chassis)
the 2002-2004 CR250 or CR125 is essentially the same chassis
and shares most psrts body work/rads .. subframe seat etc.
susp is a wash in weight so is the frame..
we laced up the wider rim on the LE's ,so as long as you are comparing those bikes with the same tubes /tires and 500 engine,, the weights are similar. your 2003 weighs th esame as some guy with a CR500AF LE.
his just turns a bit beter r
Posted: August 26th, 2008, 8:15 am
by MICK
Thank you AJ. Mark another question off my list of shit I didn't know
One more question though. Are the Gen-4 chassis lighter than my Gen-3? I thought I read years ago the 500AF's weight was around 217 dry. They loose some fat since then?
weight
Posted: August 27th, 2008, 9:48 pm
by exackery
Jusr picked up the 08 Honda brochure--> here are the wet weights listed for each bike (with a full tank of gas)
crf 450 r 238
crf 250 r 227
crf 450 x 269
crf 250 x 253
the x models sure seem kinda porky (elect start can't help)
Posted: August 28th, 2008, 8:15 am
by dannygraves
I'm gonna figure out a way to put my gen-4 on the scale

Posted: August 28th, 2008, 9:01 am
by hoofarted
Try balancing it on one wheel on your bathroom scale -

Posted: August 28th, 2008, 9:05 am
by dannygraves
well, I was thinking about trying to put my stand on the scale, then zero the scale, then put the bike on... we'll see
Posted: August 28th, 2008, 9:08 am
by hoofarted
dannygraves wrote:well, I was thinking about trying to put my stand on the scale, then zero the scale, then put the bike on... we'll see
See, I knew you'd try something like that. Gonna laugh my ass off when you're picking up the bike off your chest. If all else fails, DIGGER-RIG it! haha
Seriously, if you're that adamant about weight, go to a recycling yard or a metal yard where they have large scales, u tard.
Posted: August 28th, 2008, 9:10 am
by dannygraves
there is a rock quarry (I also like to test my jetting there on weekends) right by my house with the large scale...
Posted: August 28th, 2008, 12:48 pm
by ISBB
the only problem with large scales such as the ones used in quarry's is they only do 20lb increments. If you want to use a big enough scale id reccomend a recycling facility of some sort.. or possibly the freight dock at fed ex or ups.
Posted: August 28th, 2008, 12:51 pm
by dannygraves
I was thinking about the scale at the vet I take my dogs to! LOL, I'll just walk in with my bike and puch it on the scale, then leave!!!

Posted: August 28th, 2008, 12:52 pm
by ISBB
dumb idea what about that warehouse right up st rose from the quarry? id bet they would have something that would work

Posted: August 28th, 2008, 12:54 pm
by dannygraves
hhhhmmmm, I could probably just ride the bike there

Posted: August 28th, 2008, 12:57 pm
by ISBB
i wouldnt recommend that.. hendo pd and lvmpd love to hang out at the storage place and pop speeders.
Posted: August 28th, 2008, 1:00 pm
by dannygraves
ya, but can they catch a cr500 going through the construction site there?!
