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Newby looking for parts CRF 250 05 conversion
Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 2:56 am
by jpddb100
Looking for a US dealer that can help me with a decent order of parts for my 500 - looking for PC pipe and silencer (pref the AF one), silencer to match, some Boyesen engine cases, air boot required for this conversion, left hand crank case, and a few other bits I ve probably forgotten!! Also looking for any advice anyone can give on this conversion - Im in the early stages, notched the lower frame rail to make room for the clutch case to swing the motor down as much as poss, cut out the Y and grinding out the old material from that. Few Q's: what size swingarm bush do i need? from what year? what air boot? Thanks in advance, great site! Im in the UK by the way
Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 9:56 am
by jpddb100
sorry to be dumb, but i wanna post some pics up of my conversion so far. How do i do that?[/img]
Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 10:04 am
by dannygraves
we have had about 4-5 gen-4 crf250 conversion, everything you need to know is already on the site.
use a cr125 bushing on the right to center the motor. use a gen-1 cr250, or a cr500 airboot.
to post pics highlight the link to the pics and click the "img" button
Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 10:48 am
by atank
Checkout the stickys, and chachi243's 05 build its sweet like honey

Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 11:16 am
by eyesky2002
Post pics like this below, but first you must upload them to get the URL. I use photobucket.com to host my pics.

Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 12:34 pm
by jpddb100
thanks guys. Just a link to my album - hope it works. I found an 02 CR250 air boot and just sat it on, not tried the 500 one yet. 250 one isn t far away though. No welding done yet, just the cuts. Does everyone have issues with the shock spring & crank case clearance? Saw in one thread someone took a grinder to the cases at the back. Was hoping not to do that but cant see any other way round it. Any suppliers wanna cut me a deal on the items i need? thanks

Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 12:36 pm
by dannygraves
that was only because Bob needs the big spring to handle the weight. I weigh 190 and the stock springs on my '04 are perfect for me and don't require trimming the cases.
Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 12:37 pm
by eyesky2002
Looks good!!

Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 12:42 pm
by AlisoBob
dannygraves wrote:that was only because Bob needs the big spring to handle the weight. I weigh 190 and the stock springs on my '04 are perfect for me and don't require trimming the cases.
Not 100% true, the "X" model has different linkage that puts the shock closer too.
Clearencing the cases is a 3 minute job, counting the time it takes to pick your beer back up.
Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 12:42 pm
by jpddb100
Its going slowly and Im no fabricator - trust me!! Have heart set on a Bailey rep so we ll see how it goes. Has anyone come up with a 'kit' for these - motor mounts and double sided head stay? Must be double sided though? thanks
Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 12:46 pm
by dannygraves
front mounts, yes, shanman makes them. headstay...no, the only way that would work is if the kits also contained lower mounts and everyone did their motor angle the same. I cranked mine as far forward as possible and it seems to have worked out.
I used the stock headstay and modified it to work.
Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 12:47 pm
by AlisoBob
Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 12:49 pm
by jpddb100
OK sorry, I ve read so many threads, i dont know whos modifications are whose anymore! I like the motor rotated as much as poss. Need to notch out a little more on mine yet i think. The crf250 head mounts dont look too far off angle wise so ill have a go at chopping them up. Cos thats where my skills end!
Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 12:51 pm
by dannygraves
I did mine in a similar way. sorry, don't have pics... my 3YO keeps taking the digi can and snapping pics of the dogs and his starwars action figures and burns through the batteries

Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 12:51 pm
by jpddb100
And then just weld them 2 pieces together? No recommendations on suppliers yet? thanks
Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 12:53 pm
by eyesky2002
jpddb100 wrote: Cos thats where my skills end!
Don't cut yourself short, a lot of us with minimal skills and tools have and are currently building our own!!!
Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 12:57 pm
by jpddb100
me included! Pretty scary taking a grinder to a perfectly good Honda frame, but im getting kicks out of it already. Not ridden a 500 for 8 years - bring it on!
Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 1:07 pm
by dannygraves
its been a while since I updated my build, check it out
http://www.bannedcr500riders.com/board/ ... 52&start=0
Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 1:08 pm
by dannygraves
shit, I welded my own frame and had zero aluminum welding experience.

Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 3:09 pm
by teemtrubble
Do not use a "Grinder" ever! Only use a saw, file, rotary file. Do not deburr your aluminum parts ever with abrasives if your going to weld them it contaminates the material.
Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 5:08 pm
by AlisoBob
Yuuuuuuuuuuup......
Posted: July 22nd, 2008, 6:23 pm
by JBaze
Listen to those guys about the grinder!!! Thats what I did, then got to spend a couple hours "cleaning" with hand files.
Posted: July 23rd, 2008, 2:58 am
by jpddb100
By a grinder, I meant a grinder with thin metal cutting blade. Not sure if that counts or not. Getting the material from the Y milled out today so will post more pics later
Posted: July 23rd, 2008, 6:25 am
by AlisoBob
If it has physical "Teeth", its o.k.
If it is "Abrasive".....its not.
Posted: July 23rd, 2008, 6:29 am
by nmdesertrider
I have heard this one way too many times.
Does the abrasive contaminate the weld? Sure along with a dozen other things.
Does it make the weld weaker in the cr500 application? I think the jury is out on that.