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Drilling out my 85

Posted: March 7th, 2008, 10:55 pm
by nmdesertrider
Hey, what size bit should I use to drill out my 85 motor so I can stick a bushing in there... should I use one from the 125? Its going in a 04 crf450 frame.

Posted: March 8th, 2008, 7:49 am
by teemtrubble
Which bushing are you refering to the ones that are pressed in the case halves?

Posted: March 8th, 2008, 8:14 am
by nmdesertrider
Yeah, so I can put in the bigger swingarm bolt.
It seems like the two options are to drill out the cases and put in bigger bushings, or to just have the original bushings drilled out.

Which one is the best option?


I was looking at the yamaha bushings--

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Posted: March 8th, 2008, 8:42 am
by eyesky2002
nmdesertrider wrote:I was looking at the yamaha bushings--
Why Yamaha? Sure you can still get the ones for the CR from Honda parts direct or worse case from SH???

Posted: March 8th, 2008, 8:48 am
by britincali
You cant buy just the bushing, it comes already pressed in the case half.


I took my 87 style bushing and the swingarm bolt to a machine shop to have a set made.

Posted: March 8th, 2008, 1:48 pm
by teemtrubble
Yamaha? I guess that's ok if your buying a Piano. :lol:

AJ at SH might be able to help you with loose bushings but only AJ forget asking anyone else there! I know he's helped other hoons in the past he's a good dude and if he's got them he'll hook you up.

The Dealer doesn't sell the bushings as far as I know you would have to buy the cases.

Do you have access to a machine shop and a good machinist? If you do "bore" your bushings you won't be able to "drill" them. Even if you got bushings from AJ you would still need to "bore" the cases.

If all else fails I know a Machinist that knows a thing or two about a thing or two :wink:

Posted: March 9th, 2008, 8:30 pm
by MTNielson
Mike at TeemTrubble bored mine out. They work great.

You should be able to pop out the bushings and send them to him.

Posted: March 10th, 2008, 8:46 pm
by nmdesertrider
Okay bear with me now, I'm not the sharpest nail in the box... are you talking about part #25 in the pic? It's really thin, I don't see how you can bore it out but I trust you guys.



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Re: Drilling out my 85

Posted: March 10th, 2008, 9:03 pm
by teemtrubble
nmdesertrider wrote:Hey, what size bit should I use to drill out my 85 motor so I can stick a bushing in there... should I use one from the 125? Its going in a 04 crf450 frame.
That drawing you posted doesn't apply to a 450 coversion :roll:

Posted: March 10th, 2008, 9:05 pm
by nmdesertrider
I am trying to identify the bushing you are talking about.. I thought you meant off the 85???

Posted: March 10th, 2008, 9:08 pm
by teemtrubble
nmdesertrider wrote:Okay bear with me now, I'm not the sharpest nail in the box... are you talking about part #25 in the pic? It's really thin, I don't see how you can bore it out but I trust you guys.



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You won't need any of this stuff but it would be item 12 in the first drawing you posted!

Posted: March 10th, 2008, 9:11 pm
by nmdesertrider
Okay Mike thanks. I thought there was something I could with the 85 bushing and I have been scratching my head and saying WTF? all night.

I'm asking stupid questions so I avoid doing stupid things!! :lol:

Posted: March 11th, 2008, 7:38 am
by teemtrubble
No such thing as a stupid question!

Just stupid mistakes..... :wink:

But you still need to bore the case bushings or find new bushings and bore the cases. The swing arm bolt from your 450 is 2mm bigger than the bushings in your 85 CR500 cases if I remember correctly.

Posted: March 11th, 2008, 9:20 pm
by Uzi
Yeah the 85 has 15mm bushings and the newer stuff has 17mm talk to AJ at Service Honda he hooked me up with a set of the newer style bushings. I don't know if he's got any more laying around but he would be the one to ask because like others have said you can't get them as a separate part. Here's a shot showing the difference

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Posted: March 11th, 2008, 10:19 pm
by AlisoBob
Uzi wrote:AJ at Service Honda he hooked me up with a set of the newer style bushings.
:urock: :urock: :urock:

Posted: April 17th, 2008, 4:33 pm
by nmdesertrider
I got some bushings from a crf450 that grenaded... what size bit should I use to drill out the holes for the bushing?

Posted: April 17th, 2008, 9:44 pm
by iggys-amsoil
nmdesertrider wrote:I got some bushings from a crf450 that grenaded... what size bit should I use to drill out the holes for the bushing?
That stuff is offly hard, a regular drill isn't going to cut it.

Could it be that Yamaha or another would work?

Posted: April 17th, 2008, 10:29 pm
by nmdesertrider
I am drilling out the cases, not the bushings.

Posted: April 18th, 2008, 7:35 am
by dannygraves
a 13/16" bit worked perfect for me! :wink:

Posted: April 18th, 2008, 2:56 pm
by nmdesertrider
Thanks Danny. Damn bit was 23$ :shock:

Posted: April 18th, 2008, 8:18 pm
by dannygraves
n/p
ya, I remember paying like $35 for mine, I bought it when I was converting my friends old 350z to a manual trans and had to drill the hole in the crank for the pilot bushing... that was a brutal project that we had to finish by the end of the day :shock:

Posted: August 11th, 2008, 2:03 pm
by smokindodge
I know this one has been beat to death fellas but I've got a couple questions on it. I have a guy who wants to buy my 92 steelie chassis. He's got an 88 right now he wants to put his motor in the 92. I am just wondering what it's going to cost him (ballpark) and how much work to get the bushings done. Has he got to split his cases to get the bushings out? What's the easiest way to get this done all of you who have been through this.

Posted: August 11th, 2008, 2:20 pm
by teemtrubble
$40 plus shipping to bore the bushings

Posted: August 11th, 2008, 2:29 pm
by smokindodge
what about getting them out of the motor? I can't picture it in my head, if I ever even knew that is.. Will he have to split the cases?

Posted: August 11th, 2008, 5:28 pm
by dannygraves
take a punch or even a screw driver and tap it out from the other side.