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ring end gap
Posted: October 15th, 2013, 6:06 am
by other
Dumb question time . . . . Brand new stock jug 89.0 bore, brand new stock cast piston, brand new standard rings . . . . wash the Honda honey off the bore, slip the rings in with the slug so they sit square, end gaps measure 19 and 20 thou. . . . . is this about right ? I know there was a formula that stipulated the end gap as a percentage of bore circumference, but I'm buggered if I can find it ! Just want to make sure this engine is as safe as possible. Any opinions ?
Posted: October 15th, 2013, 7:30 am
by Roostius_Maximus
I'd have looked for .018", go with the .019"
have you measured that cylinder to see that its skirt is proper size?
Posted: October 15th, 2013, 7:35 am
by other
ring end gaps measure the same top and bottom, so yeah, it seems pretty parallel. exhaust bridge is relieved too, so it seems ok to bolt up ?
Posted: October 15th, 2013, 10:09 pm
by iggys-amsoil
This is one thing that piss' me off sometimes.
The end gap in the manuel says .018-.020 max. I think there is a minium of .014?
I have yet to see an end gap of less than .018 with a fresh bore and rings.
Re: ring end gap
Posted: October 17th, 2013, 10:04 pm
by abrracing
other wrote:Dumb question time . . . . Brand new stock jug 89.0 bore, brand new stock cast piston, brand new standard rings . . . . wash the Honda honey off the bore, slip the rings in with the slug so they sit square, end gaps measure 19 and 20 thou. . . . . is this about right ? I know there was a formula that stipulated the end gap as a percentage of bore circumference, but I'm buggered if I can find it ! Just want to make sure this engine is as safe as possible. Any opinions ?
I know the formula for a forged piston is usually .004" for every inch of bore.. for cast i'd just use the same... can't hurt... i've took a kx125 engine apart for a customer that had a ring end gap of .020" and it ran fine.. lol thats no joke.
Posted: October 21st, 2013, 5:43 pm
by AlisoBob
If the rings ever butt, its all over. Go with ther bigger gap.
Posted: November 1st, 2013, 2:39 am
by scooter5002
Roosty measured my end gap last summer at his shop when we were changing a couple of gears out in the trans. .050. That's right. 50 thou. Slammed it back together in June and rode it out to the end of the season. Fuck it, it's a Honda. It's bulletproof. Lol
Posted: November 1st, 2013, 7:22 am
by other
Agreed Scooter (and Bob ). Gap can be big, no drama, they just blow-by a bit. Gap's too small, they blow-UP a bit. That's was the one I was tryin' to avoid !