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Destroyed piston and barrel - with pics
Posted: July 2nd, 2012, 2:20 am
by keysey
Posted: July 2nd, 2012, 3:16 am
by 2strokeforever
i wouldnt trust a dyno to try and set up real world jetting, simple plug check works everytime
Posted: July 2nd, 2012, 4:56 am
by mr500
I'm no jetting expert but 172 seems a little lean to be WFO for 230km?
Posted: July 2nd, 2012, 6:18 am
by AlisoBob
Posted: July 2nd, 2012, 8:42 am
by Roostius_Maximus
Its obviously too lean, looking at the exhaust port it's taller than stock.
Here's a good rule of thumb for anyone with any aftermarket or stock reeds and carb with non-oxygenated fuel....
The exhaust duration in degrees is almost exactly what main jet you need. Ex: 178 duration is stock, if you ride it at the top end of the motor it needs a 178.
Your porting, with the wide ears and the tall exhaust I'd start at 188 and try to sneak down. You could do lube holes where the exhaust almost overlaps the intake also, you're building major heat there and the exhaust has a good starting point to creep around the piston at that angle.
What cc is the head? Should be down in the 58-60cc area for that much exhaust too, if it is and the squish is 55-60 and the main is 188 or close to then run a colder plug also.
First thing that happened here is the ring end gap closed, on a port that wide go .022-.025" gap.
After the rings butted the dome sunk, it got so hot after that it had to stick
What piston clearence was it? I'd have gave that motor .004"
Posted: July 2nd, 2012, 12:28 pm
by Kuma
I'd also be looking for air leaks, intake boot, crank seals, base gasket
Posted: July 2nd, 2012, 1:22 pm
by blownbillybob
I don't see any exh bridge relief either???????
Posted: July 2nd, 2012, 3:25 pm
by keysey
Posted: July 2nd, 2012, 4:19 pm
by Gravel Scratcher
Hey mate
That must have been you I saw parked up in the weeds just outside of finke. Would love to have stopped for a chat but had a spike to collect back in Alice
Sorry to hear about the motor, looks a bit nasty. If its any help to you next time i was running the pwk39 with a 48 pilot, 180 main on a DGL needle in the middle clip all on 40:1. If your staying in the upper reaches of the rpm a lot try a 185.
I ran with Roosty's porting and a boyesen RAD valve to top it off. If your looking for someone in Australia for the machining try Bruce Woodley at power flow in Melbourne, i really like his porting as well. Bruce also machined my head to run better on unleaded to (now prefers 98 octane from the pump but will run on 95 as well).
The other thing I did was put close ratio 5th gear in to stay on the pipe a bit easier in the sand. Final gearing was 15/40 which was more than enough for me to round up the others when needed.
Posted: July 3rd, 2012, 12:20 am
by keysey
Yeah mate, that was me alright. I think with the setup I had I was lucky to make it down. I wont be making this mistake again next year.
Posted: July 21st, 2012, 1:38 pm
by dannygraves
that is some very aggressive porting, look at the exhaust width. I had a jug that wasn't even close to that wide on the exhaust and probably similar duration and when I was on a pwk, I want to say I was around a 190 main, but then I switched to a mikuni TM with a powerjet.