different generation AF's

other · Post by **other** » September 14th, 2011, 6:19 am

Can anyone give a definitive list of what bikes are what generation ? I am doing a '08 CRF450X conversion, and don't know for sure whether it's a Gen 3 or Gen 4. . . . . . I feel so ignorant !

Gmbond · Post by **Gmbond** » September 14th, 2011, 9:20 am

That would be a Gen 4

Gen1 -1997-1999 cr250
Gen2. 2000-2001 cr125 and cr250
Gen3. 2002-2007 cr125 and cr250
2002-2003 crf450
Gen4 2004-2008 450 crf250 to 2009

Gen5 2009 crf450 2010-current crf250 and 450

other · Post by **other** » September 14th, 2011, 6:37 pm

thanks

dogger315 · Post by **dogger315** » September 15th, 2011, 9:22 am

2002-2003 crf450

Change that to 2002-2004 CRF450 gen 3 and 2005-2008
CRF450 gen 4, and add 1998-1999 CR125 gen 1.

All the rest looks good.

dogger

hoofarted · Post by **hoofarted** » September 15th, 2011, 12:38 pm

dogger315 wrote:
2002-2003 crf450
Change that to 2002-2004 CRF450 gen 3 and 2005-2008
CRF450 gen 4, and add 1998-1999 CR125 gen 1.

All the rest looks good.

dogger

97-99 250 = Gen1
98-99 125 = Gen1 -- I think.
00-01 125/250 = Gen2
02-07 125?/250 = Gen3

I forget how the 4T stuff goes...

Gmbond · Post by **Gmbond** » September 15th, 2011, 4:33 pm

Isn't an 04 crf250x a gen4? The four stroke stuff I didn't follow that much when new, so I've just picked it up as I went.

I kinda deliberately left off the 98-99 125 from gen1 just as I figured it to be unlikely too many people would want to do that kind of work to swap a 500 into a gen1 125 chassis.

Post by **AlisoBob** » September 15th, 2011, 5:09 pm

Gmbond wrote:Isn't an 04 crf250x a gen4?

Yuppers....

dogger315 · Post by **dogger315** » September 15th, 2011, 6:40 pm

Isn't an 04 crf250x a gen4?

Yes it is. Honda switched to the gen 4 frame for the CRF 250R
and X a year before doing the same for the 450F.

I kinda deliberately left off the 98-99 125 from gen1 just as I figured it to be unlikely too many people would want to do that kind of work to swap a 500 into a gen1 125 chassis.

Good point, I was just throwing it out to answer the "what bikes are
what generation" question.

dogger

other · Post by **other** » November 7th, 2011, 8:43 pm

Thanx for all this good info guys. . . How do you identify one from the other ?What are the physical differences between the frames of different generations ? I mean,. if a frame stripped of plastics etc was put in front of you, how could you tell what was what ?

2strokeforever · Post by **2strokeforever** » November 7th, 2011, 9:31 pm

by looking at it...

freeride588 · Post by **freeride588** » November 7th, 2011, 10:51 pm

2strokeforever wrote:by looking at it...

Nice i guess he has all he needs with that answer.

Mik329 · Post by **Mik329** » November 8th, 2011, 5:39 am

10th number from the left in the VIN should indicate what year the frame is....

scooter5002 · Post by **scooter5002** » November 8th, 2011, 6:44 am

2strokeforever wrote:by looking at it...

Lmao. Nice. Way to help a hoon.

2strokeforever · Post by **2strokeforever** » November 8th, 2011, 6:01 pm

there all difrent enough that its very easy to tell the difrence from 30 feet away

Post by **AlisoBob** » November 8th, 2011, 6:40 pm

2strokeforever wrote:there all difrent enough that its very easy to tell the difrence from 30 feet away

Easy / Peasy.....

The Gen 1's have no "Y"... the uptubes go all the way to the steering stem.

The Gen 2's suck... who cares.

The Gen 3's have the "Clamshell" type Y

The Gen 4's have the investment cast Y

The Gen 5's have the hex lower cradle tubes

dannygraves · Post by **dannygraves** » November 8th, 2011, 6:53 pm

97-99 cr250 = Gen1
98-99 cr125 = Gen1
00-01 cr125/250 = Gen2
02-07 cr125/250 = Gen3
02-04 crf450 = Gen3
04-09 crf250 = Gen4
05-08 crf450 = Gen4
09+ crf450 = Gen5

not sure about the crf250 after '09

Rhino89523 · Post by **Rhino89523** » November 8th, 2011, 6:55 pm

Just out of curiosity how do you rule out the gen 2. What makes them look different than a gen 3. Thank you for the Pics Bob.

2strokeforever · Post by **2strokeforever** » November 8th, 2011, 7:12 pm

the gen 1 and 2 have a straight across weld on the frame spars, the frame spars also look like an aluminum 2X4
gen 3 spars are sexy, and the weld has a corner in it

the welds are closer to the footpeg on gen 1,2,3, the gen 4 and 5 the welds are above the airboot

freeride588 · Post by **freeride588** » November 8th, 2011, 7:32 pm

Yeah bob why are you so anti gen 2 250 im in the process of putting one together and even though i agree that the gen 3 and up stuff look better and probably preform better but i think that after its all together it will be a solid bike and a huge jump forward from my 91 steely and to say they suck in my opinion is not even close to the truth. I do have crf450 forks, suspension set up for my weight and riding style and im doing the gen 3 plastic swap so i think it will be a step up from the standard gen 2. 2stroke why did you have to say that your right about the frame looking like a 2x4.

Damnit!!!!!!

Post by **AlisoBob** » November 8th, 2011, 7:57 pm

I'm just goofin' on the Gen 2's.

People say they suck, cuz Honda only made them for a year and a half before bailing on the design...

Good boingers and brakes on any chassis is a bike worth riding.... even a Gen 2.

2strokeforever · Post by **2strokeforever** » November 8th, 2011, 8:01 pm

and

cant put up a gen 5 cause my computer is retarded?
but there easy to reconise by the stubby shock reservoir, and weird cradle tubing

freeride588 · Post by **freeride588** » November 8th, 2011, 10:36 pm

Yup all nice bikes except that Service honda in the truck

Gen 3 250 is the best looking in my opinion.

britincali · Post by **britincali** » November 9th, 2011, 12:18 am

freeride588 wrote:
Gen 5 is the best looking in my opinion.

Fixed

freeride588 · Post by **freeride588** » November 9th, 2011, 12:40 am

britincali wrote:
freeride588 wrote:
Gen 5 is the best looking in my opinion.
Fixed

I like your bike alot Brit I think the desert tank makes the bike look alot better because it fills in that giant gap in the radiator shroud that makes them look kinda flimsy thats my big complaint with the gen 5. Liking those black rims too

britincali · Post by **britincali** » November 9th, 2011, 12:50 am

The motor and pipe just make the bike look perfect IMO

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different generation AF's

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