FUEL INJECTED CR500 DONE.

bigred1977 · Post by **bigred1977** » July 18th, 2011, 11:52 pm

just finished this bike 2010 yzf450 frame full ohlins fuel injected cr500,fully adjustable ignition and fuel maps,launch control, very light bike,still got blue talon hubs and gold excels to go on and sticker kit....

brebel · Post by **brebel** » July 19th, 2011, 1:11 am

That looks beautiful

but you are gonna have to show a pic and video of the fuel inj for me to believe it.

bigred1977 · Post by **bigred1977** » July 19th, 2011, 1:20 am

hahaha sweet as man will do this weekend,cheers...

hoofarted · Post by **hoofarted** » July 19th, 2011, 6:29 am

brebel wrote:That looks beautiful but you are gonna have to show a pic and video of the fuel inj for me to believe it.

I'm thinkin the same...want to see carb side of motor.

Tharrell · Post by **Tharrell** » July 19th, 2011, 11:18 am

hoofarted wrote:
brebel wrote:That looks beautiful but you are gonna have to show a pic and video of the fuel inj for me to believe it.
I'm thinkin the same...want to see carb side of motor.

Yeah, but I wanna see it all.
Looks like a really nice build.

bigred1977 · Post by **bigred1977** » July 19th, 2011, 11:53 am

yeah no worries i will after the weekend, video too,as i said my camera is turd.....up close it fuzzes out and cannot adjust it.pissed me off.

Post by **AlisoBob** » July 19th, 2011, 6:20 pm

Great bike Biggy.... CR / CRF based or not...

Coley13 dosent understand that to kiss everyones ass who builds a bike detracts from builders like you who take it to the next level.

Post up some close ups, so I can rave on your build some more.

coley13 · Post by **coley13** » July 19th, 2011, 7:08 pm

i'll take that under advisement Bob.

Kuma · Post by **Kuma** » July 19th, 2011, 10:25 pm

What FI system did you use?

gregrobo · Post by **gregrobo** » July 19th, 2011, 10:41 pm

nice im also interested in how you got the fi to work we are doing a 2010 rmz 450 conversion and looked intoit but ran into many brick walls very nice

bigred1977 · Post by **bigred1977** » July 19th, 2011, 11:19 pm

this is not dfi as it would of blown the budget to death!! just a std throttle body with injector

gregrobo · Post by **gregrobo** » July 20th, 2011, 1:44 am

still interesting i have all the components but cant get anwers

bearorso · Post by **bearorso** » July 23rd, 2011, 11:20 am

Perhaps it's any one of the various EFI kits that Quaddies run? They've been around for long enough now to perhaps be sorted out to give real, wide range, usability.

It would take some serious engineering to fit an OEM 4t EFI.

I'm eagerly awaiting pics of the system used.

Kuma · Post by **Kuma** » July 23rd, 2011, 11:49 pm

You can pick up a GP Controls FI ECU for around $50-75, Throttle body for $50, wiring harness around $50 injectors, $40, then you would have to make acustom flywheel, not sure how much a pick up would be, $20? then try to figure out how to convince a 4T FI to send fuel and spark on every stroke? Thought about doing this but too much of a project and I've already got enough of them.
I think there are some 2T sleds with FI, that would be something to look into

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » July 24th, 2011, 12:10 am

UknowDamright · Post by **UknowDamright** » July 24th, 2011, 4:23 am

100hp honda wrote:

you can see that is a yamaha banshee, not the 500 engine....but did you use that unit or something?

Gravel Scratcher · Post by **Gravel Scratcher** » July 26th, 2011, 6:48 pm

gregrobo wrote:still interesting i have all the components but cant get anwers

Have you tried these boys, there just down the road from you. I remember reading about them a few years back when i think it was developing stuff for Aprilla ??
DFI kit would be nice wouldn't it

http://www.orbitalcorp.com.au/directinj ... ycle2s.htm

gregrobo · Post by **gregrobo** » July 27th, 2011, 4:17 am

i rang them today unless we can get 100 kits bought and paid for they are not interested another brick wall

where are these promised photos bigred

bearorso · Post by **bearorso** » July 27th, 2011, 7:28 am

gregrobo wrote:i rang them today unless we can get 100 kits bought and paid for they are not interested another brick wall

where are these promised photos bigred

I'm surprised they'd even consider that low a number. Did they give Any indication of price?

Orbital Are THE DFI company. They hold patents for so much related to DFI, it's not funny. I remember watching The Inventors program on ABC in the early seventies, when Ralph Sarich showed his Orbital engine - the Orbital engine, hasn't gone far, but the stratified injection that he made and developed further, made him many millions , if not, billions of dollars.

Pretty much Any company running DFI, is using their super fine stratified charge system. They get royalties from so many companies out there. Most DFI systems (cars/trucks - petrol /diesel) use their ideas. To a certain extent, their hold on the tech (fair enough, they invented /developed it) has kept DFI away from bikes - few companies, especially the Japanese, will pay for the NIH - Not Invented Here - product. Aprilia / Lambretta have their tech on some scooters, as do some Indian companies, and plenty of Car /Truck companies have taken on Orbitals designs. Outboard companies / Snowmobile companies, have all dealt with Orbital. It will be interesting to see what KTMs system really is - they are claiming it's Their system, but, with Rotax nearby, who are part of BRP, that use Orbital tech, it might be bluster and bullshit on KTMs part. The Euro 5(?) regulations will come into effect soon, so then KTM will Have to release their DFI 2ts. During this years model release conference at Munich Airport, they brought up DFI themselves, saying they were currently arranging suppliers for their system, that Would be introduced as the regs demanded them. 2 strokes represent perhaps as much as 40% of KTMs sales, and the majority Have to be road registerable. Who knows, KTM might just have enough sense to bring out road bikes with 2t engines. They'd make a killing. Who wouldn't want something like a 600 / 1000cc 2t V Twin, with better power and torque, lighter weight, and equal, or better fuel economy, than the current crop of 4 cylinder 4ts?

DFI is what it's all about (though there are other, simpler techs to make 2ts pass regs, get good fuel economy - Hondas AR system, with a basic EFI set up would be the go, if Honda were ever to be forced to back down from their 4t obsession). Market forces may just get them to come to their senses - you never know.

The bloke with this Yam / EFI bike is more on CR500riders. I'd be very surprised if any of the Yams EFI system was used - it's probably a combo of available bits, like the various systems on quads / ultra light aircraft. Should be interesting, nonetheless. It's always interesting to see something different.

gregrobo · Post by **gregrobo** » September 19th, 2011, 4:13 am

so its been a long while WHERE ARE THE PICS

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » December 13th, 2011, 9:51 pm

gregrobo wrote:so its been a long while WHERE ARE THE PICS

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE5ENcMH ... re=related[/youtube]

Kuma · Post by **Kuma** » December 13th, 2011, 10:33 pm

looks like a runner, I have to comment that the location for the camera man could have been better

maybe towards the middle of the track.
Wish I had a back yard like that

100hp honda · Post by **100hp honda** » December 13th, 2011, 11:48 pm

was hoping for a walk around of the fi system but it didnt happen

98cr500rider · Post by **98cr500rider** » December 14th, 2011, 7:58 pm

Ossa went to the Japanese Kokusan company to develop the fuel injection for their 2 stroke trials bike and upcoming enduro bike. Their system uses 2 injectors, one into the barrel and one into the crankcases and linked into an electronic power valve.

You can bet that Kokusan have used this exercise as a means to market and sell more systems into 2 strokes and will be promoting their stuff to all the current manufactures still making 2 strokes. Maybe some others will pick up and go with a proven system, they are all well used to buying electrics from them already.

The guy here is never going to give out any details on his bike, it still could be a hoax.

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2strokeforever · Post by **2strokeforever** » December 14th, 2011, 8:03 pm

The guy here is never going to give out any details on his bike, it still could be a hoax.

there you go, now you have to put up pics

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