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Bastard engine ?'s.....
Posted: April 12th, 2011, 6:59 pm
by FPMXer
So I've decided to just freshen up the motor with newer goodies and run the steel frame. Here's what I've got-88' cases with no damage and good transmission and crank. Gonna replace the crank bearings, seals and gaskets. I have a 96' cylinder that is being fitted to the 88' cases and the head is gonna be cleaned up. I also have a brand new 89' and up right side cover. I bought a new Moose seal kit on fleabay and I need a complete gasket kit but dunno what year kit I need. Do I buy the kit for an 88' and it'll fit the newer stuff or buy a kit for the 89' up and it'll fit the frankenmotor? I searched the forum to no avail.
Posted: April 12th, 2011, 7:23 pm
by 2strokekyle
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I belive the only difference is the head gasket thickness.
Posted: April 15th, 2011, 3:37 am
by FPMXer
I'm guessing by all the responses that the 89'-01' gasket kit is what I'll buy then.

Posted: April 15th, 2011, 7:35 am
by Roostius_Maximus
use either, the 88 set has more gasket where the narrow sleeve fit, can be used in either engine with trimming.
Posted: April 15th, 2011, 2:16 pm
by FPMXer
Thanks RM I'll get the newer kit as I'm putting in the fatter sleeve'd cylinder anyway.
Posted: April 15th, 2011, 3:10 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
you milling the cases larger, or cutting downt he sleeve od?
wont matter either way, just curious
Posted: April 17th, 2011, 7:14 pm
by FPMXer
I took it to a machinist and told him to take care of it either way. He cut the sleeve instead of milling out the cases. He also removed the two back cylinder studs so I can install longer ones. All I need now are new circlips and find a head. The one I have looks like it was hit with a gernade.
Posted: May 15th, 2011, 2:53 pm
by FPMXer
So the bike is up and running. I put the new late model right side cover on. The issue at hand is it's weeping coolant out the lil hole in the cover! I've replaced both the seals and the washer and still fucking leaks! The seals are Honda OEM from bikebandit! What gives???
Posted: May 15th, 2011, 3:09 pm
by 2strokeforever
probably put in backwards, its diffrent than the rest of the seals you install
Posted: May 16th, 2011, 3:31 am
by FPMXer
Letters and solid side out or in?
Posted: May 16th, 2011, 8:33 am
by 100hp honda
spring goes toward water. spring toward oil.
Posted: May 16th, 2011, 3:39 pm
by FPMXer
100hph, The letters on both seals face each other?
Posted: May 16th, 2011, 7:18 pm
by 100hp honda
yes. one spring goes toward water, other spring toward oil. most likely you put them in backwards. its common mistake. i did it once also

Posted: May 16th, 2011, 7:29 pm
by FPMXer
Yup that's how I installed them! lol Hopefully I can get them out without fucking them up!

Posted: May 16th, 2011, 9:51 pm
by 100hp honda
most any dealer can have new ones in 3 days. probly not worth trying to save them
someone said rockymountain still sells honda parts but you have to call with part number. they could probly have them to your house in 4 days.
Posted: May 16th, 2011, 10:28 pm
by FRO53
I had the same problem. Turned out to be a head gasket. The pressure forces water out the hole. I had replaced all the seals and gaskets too. If you pull the head u can usally see where the water was going .
Posted: May 17th, 2011, 6:50 pm
by FPMXer
FRO53 wrote:I had the same problem. Turned out to be a head gasket. The pressure forces water out the hole. I had replaced all the seals and gaskets too. If you pull the head u can usally see where the water was going .
It happens when the bike is not running after I've been kicking her. The head was decked and the jug is flat and new gasket. I installed the seals backwards.
Posted: May 19th, 2011, 4:47 pm
by FRO53
FPMXer wrote:FRO53 wrote:I had the same problem. Turned out to be a head gasket. The pressure forces water out the hole. I had replaced all the seals and gaskets too. If you pull the head u can usally see where the water was going .
It happens when the bike is not running after I've been kicking her. The head was decked and the jug is flat and new gasket. I installed the seals backwards.
Cool!
Posted: August 15th, 2011, 7:20 pm
by FPMXer
So after getting the seals corrected and hoses fixed. Once the bike reaches temp is shit's coolant out the over flow. I tried a new cap to no avail. I also removed the rad's and hoses and flushed them all out and they are free and clear. But the bitch still pisses coolant out the overflow line. I did a compression test and it's holding 160psi. What gives guru's?
Posted: August 15th, 2011, 7:32 pm
by 2strokeforever
if you fill it right to the top it will do that, just ride it and if you cant see coolant in the rad after a day you most likely have a problem
Posted: August 15th, 2011, 8:04 pm
by MojoScojo
2strokeforever wrote:if you fill it right to the top it will do that, just ride it and if you cant see coolant in the rad after a day you most likely have a problem
x2
Mine never liked being full. Always burped the excess to just over the fins and not again.
Posted: August 15th, 2011, 8:18 pm
by racein01
MojoScojo wrote:2strokeforever wrote:if you fill it right to the top it will do that, just ride it and if you cant see coolant in the rad after a day you most likely have a problem
x2
Mine never liked being full. Always burped the excess to just over the fins and not again.
x 3
Posted: August 15th, 2011, 9:58 pm
by pstoffers
racein01 wrote:MojoScojo wrote:2strokeforever wrote:if you fill it right to the top it will do that, just ride it and if you cant see coolant in the rad after a day you most likely have a problem
x2
Mine never liked being full. Always burped the excess to just over the fins and not again.
x 3
X491
Posted: August 16th, 2011, 7:36 pm
by FPMXer
That's where it stops is just over the fins! I'll just ride the dogshit out of it and wait till it gernades!

Posted: August 17th, 2011, 3:53 am
by Tharrell
What about fitting a catch for it?
I've seen a few pics on here.