1985 CR500 found for $750. 99% original. Starting the resto!
1985 CR500 found for $750. 99% original. Starting the resto!
First off. No title. Did they come with them? Anyway, I bought it from a guy in AZ that just bought it from original owner. The guy's back was hosed so he just couldn't start it. I didn't get to really dig into the bike on the spot, but I just bought it (I only started it and idled it around). other than complete OEM, it has red boots, Showa swing arm stickers, and not sure about the pipe. The pipe has a bunch of little criss crossed heat shield type wires on the "knee portion" of the pipe. It has an Answer "SA PRO" spark arrestor. The yellow OEM paint is still perfect on 2/3 plates. the Kicker side has the boot rash. I also got a bit worried about the water pump issue, but opened it up and it was pristine. The guy told me that the owner stressed the point of draining the coolant if it's not being used. I found a couple great suppliers on ebay for the OEM shroud emblems and swing arm "PRO LINK" decals (blue). I also got the stock boots in today. I just started the tear down. I can't wait to get it done. I'm not sure what to do yet on the motor. It's quiet for sure. I tried to upload from photobucket but can't figure it out. If you search mowenjoe 1985 cr500, it's on there. [/img]<a href="http://s355.photobucket.com/albums/r449 ... CF6180.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r449 ... CF6180.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>![Image]()
Yah, I'm from Saskatchetoon!
MRE 02 250/500 conversion, pulse injector, twirp porting, coolhead, MRE ignition, blah blah blah blah... www.millarengines.com
MRE 02 250/500 conversion, pulse injector, twirp porting, coolhead, MRE ignition, blah blah blah blah... www.millarengines.com
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sugarshane
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Joe, I am going thru the same issues with a 250R quad that was never titled. I went to the MVD and since it has never been titled it will need a "Level 1" inspection to verify the VIN's. It needs to be fully assembled in order for them to do the inspection. '85 or '86 is when the started issuing titles for off-road vehicles and most people never did a transfer of ownership because it was not required in most states for a long time. Sweet looking ride! Oh, I finally got the throttle assembly and tank strap that detoured 400 miles to California!
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maddog1927
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Assuming you are in AZ…
My suggestion would be to start off at a third party title agency and see what they can do for you. They will be able to give you your options and navigate through the system better. I know a good one that is very familiar with the needs of us off road guys in east mesa, PM if you would like contact info.
It may require a bonded title, which is $200 through a third party agency, maybe cheaper if you do it through your own bonding company and DMV.
If required to take to DMV for anything higher than a level 1 inspection, check to see if the engine # is original to the VIN. By looking at the photo I would guess it is.
Reason I say start at the third party is: I bought a very nicely restored RZ350 with a good Florida title. I took it in to get a title, at the time they required out of state titles to go through a level one inspection, they no longer do. At the level one inspection the gal checking it verified that the numbers STAMPED IN THE STEEL FRAME matched the title, but the 22 YEAR OLD STICKER that also had the vin on it was missing (was sandblasted off as a part of the complete restoration). This prompted her to send me to a level 2 inspection. At the level 2 inspection the old geezer checked the vin and the motor # and discovered that the engine was not original to that bike. He wanted to give me an Arizona Vin sticker, and a title that called it a 1985 yamaha salvage. I got nowhere explaining to him that this was a clean restoration of a classic bike and a “salvage” title was not appropriate, and as far as the engine not being the original engine there are many a classic a car with a different engine than the original. I left thinking I would get a third party or another DMV to be more reasonable, but on both accounts they found he had red flagged the vin # in the computer. A few moths ago I went to DMV to try to get a real title now that they do not require physical inspections of bikes that have out of state titles. The transaction was all but completed when she discovered the note in the computer. She agreed that had that note not been in the computer I would have walked out with a title, but said I had to find the original DMV agent that made the note and wok it out with him. When I have time I am going to do just that and talk to each of the superiors up the ladder until I get what I want or run out of superiors. Had I started at a third party, better chance I would not have ended up with the note in the computer.
You also may find a state that will title it without even seeing it, then get a AZ title.
My suggestion would be to start off at a third party title agency and see what they can do for you. They will be able to give you your options and navigate through the system better. I know a good one that is very familiar with the needs of us off road guys in east mesa, PM if you would like contact info.
It may require a bonded title, which is $200 through a third party agency, maybe cheaper if you do it through your own bonding company and DMV.
If required to take to DMV for anything higher than a level 1 inspection, check to see if the engine # is original to the VIN. By looking at the photo I would guess it is.
Reason I say start at the third party is: I bought a very nicely restored RZ350 with a good Florida title. I took it in to get a title, at the time they required out of state titles to go through a level one inspection, they no longer do. At the level one inspection the gal checking it verified that the numbers STAMPED IN THE STEEL FRAME matched the title, but the 22 YEAR OLD STICKER that also had the vin on it was missing (was sandblasted off as a part of the complete restoration). This prompted her to send me to a level 2 inspection. At the level 2 inspection the old geezer checked the vin and the motor # and discovered that the engine was not original to that bike. He wanted to give me an Arizona Vin sticker, and a title that called it a 1985 yamaha salvage. I got nowhere explaining to him that this was a clean restoration of a classic bike and a “salvage” title was not appropriate, and as far as the engine not being the original engine there are many a classic a car with a different engine than the original. I left thinking I would get a third party or another DMV to be more reasonable, but on both accounts they found he had red flagged the vin # in the computer. A few moths ago I went to DMV to try to get a real title now that they do not require physical inspections of bikes that have out of state titles. The transaction was all but completed when she discovered the note in the computer. She agreed that had that note not been in the computer I would have walked out with a title, but said I had to find the original DMV agent that made the note and wok it out with him. When I have time I am going to do just that and talk to each of the superiors up the ladder until I get what I want or run out of superiors. Had I started at a third party, better chance I would not have ended up with the note in the computer.
You also may find a state that will title it without even seeing it, then get a AZ title.
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maddog1927
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Hey, thanks for all the comments. I'm not sure about the title thing. It does bug me. I purchased new Cagiiva 125's back in the 80's and the came with a MSO (whatever that is), and that was that. I was 18 then, and Colorado. Cheez, I could go all day talking about the offbreed bikes, but I'll try to stay focused on the CR. I just removed the seat, subframe, and found the filter was falling apart. I'm glad I didn't rip on it when I test rode. I was happy though the subframe was perfect. Also no swing arm slop. Pretty much, just a clean up of the bike and apply the "pro link" decals and new blue boots. I do have new shroud decals, but not sure if I shoud put on as the old are still ok and original but not perfect. For sure the new ones are exactily like the old. If you need the seller of them, shoot me an email. I was suprised how nice. Same goes for the pro link decals. The bike was totally retro with old Acebis hand guards, and meier handle bar jug. This bike was parked in 1986 it think. Since I am a bit picky I poked under all plastic to see if anything said "Italy", of course means Acerbis, but it's all Japan or honda. The dam handle bars are stock too. This is a beast for sure and a pain to start. Oh, and thanks to comment from the ebayer that bought the CR5 hundie throttle! Thanks for all the comments again. I welcome any insight on this oldie. Joe.
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sugarshane
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MSO is a Manufacturers Statement or Origin. If you have that you are golden. Did you ask the guy that you bought it from if he still has any contact info from the original owner? If so, maybe he still has the paperwork. If it was ever titled you can have the registered owner do a Power of Attorney for the swap. I HATE the AZ MVD. They gave me hell with all 4 of my bikes for different reasons and I even had to get a bonded title for my trailer because it had different sides welded on it. I have dealt with them a lot over stupid shit and it all depends on which agent you get I think.
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