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will this dent.......

Posted: October 19th, 2010, 8:03 pm
by qkenuf4u
screw up how my bike runs all together or just a little ? ok to break it in/ride with the dent ?? got a GNARLY but it must be bent at the spigot to the head.... this pipe fits PERFECT but has the big ol dent... :'( being im gonna be using it as a street ride i figure the GNARLY would work fine for me since i can use the bottom end torque... bummer i gotta send it back and loose a few bucks shipping.... unless someone wants to buy it.... will post in FOR SALE section....
thanks
lance
THE DENT....
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Posted: October 19th, 2010, 8:10 pm
by 2strokeforever
i dont think that matters much performance wise

but thats suposed to be the pipe to have
how much tho

Posted: October 19th, 2010, 8:19 pm
by 100hp honda
red cover is hurting my eyes. paint that sum bitch black :lol:

Posted: October 19th, 2010, 8:37 pm
by qkenuf4u
100hp honda wrote:red cover is hurting my eyes. paint that sum bitch black :lol:
lol NO WAY !! i hate black but the cases where already black so i just repainted them the same color (gloss) ..... will have black 17's once done .. would love to trade someone my black rad covers for white covers.... plus the grapics kit im getting is a black background... :?

Posted: October 20th, 2010, 12:21 am
by iggys-amsoil

Posted: October 20th, 2010, 1:42 am
by gregrobo
that man is a magician

Posted: October 20th, 2010, 2:49 am
by Tharrell
Plug the ends and hit it with some mapp gas.

Posted: October 20th, 2010, 6:43 am
by qkenuf4u
Tharrell wrote:Plug the ends and hit it with some mapp gas.
dont have any or i could bend my GNARLY where it needs to go....
iggys-amsoil wrote:www.piperepair.com ?
ya i found that site the other night... def. nice work... might be the way i go eventually ....

thanks
lance

Posted: October 20th, 2010, 8:01 am
by plynn41
This month's MXA magazine answered someone's write in question about dents in a 2-stroke pipe. Their answer was that as long as the dents were 6 inches or more away from the cylinder, they wouldn't significantly affect performance.

Posted: October 20th, 2010, 8:11 am
by Travis
They might as well make them with a dent there. Every one I have ever had has it. The only ones that aren't are on my Banshee. It would take a hell of a lick to get in there and dent those things though. lol

Posted: October 20th, 2010, 8:16 am
by Snarf
Like the other guys have said, this wont affect you really at all. Its just a cosmetic flaw. I'd rock it and not think about it again.

Posted: October 20th, 2010, 11:51 am
by pstoffers
LMAO...... That dent wont affect it....If that was the case FMF would have put it there.. :doh: But most people wont notice the performance loss on a 500.

Posted: October 20th, 2010, 12:25 pm
by plynn41
pstoffers wrote:LMAO...... That dent wont affect it....If that was the case FMF would have put it there.. :doh:
Really? I was under the impression that FMF and all the other aftermarket companies were capitalists and wanted to maximize their profits versus their costs. The extra dent would cost them (and wouldn't look as pretty).

MXA claims to have run dyno tests back to back with new versus (intentionally) dented 2-stroke pipes. They claim that sometimes, the dent actually increased hp very slightly.

Posted: October 20th, 2010, 1:01 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
we had a pipe on the ktm 105 that was all beat on, made 2hp alone over an identical make new one. :lol:

Posted: October 20th, 2010, 1:11 pm
by pstoffers
Dyno tests :doh: The dude runing the dyno can change the results with out touching the bike or car.... But hey what do I know. All My bikes are slowooooooooooooooooooo :oops:

Posted: October 20th, 2010, 1:24 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
not when i'm at the dyno, all he gets is a button on the end of the cable that starts or stops recording, NO FUDGING hahaha

Posted: October 20th, 2010, 4:07 pm
by Tharrell
MAPP gas is the yellow cylinder at the hardware store.
It's hotter, it works if you're not impatient.
As far as MXA goes, they sell magazines.
I don't really abide by their every word nor should anyone else.
I don't know, maybe I just prefer my shit to be in order.
It's a Jersey thing.

Posted: October 20th, 2010, 5:43 pm
by qkenuf4u
Tharrell wrote:MAPP gas is the yellow cylinder at the hardware store.
It's hotter, it works if you're not impatient.
As far as MXA goes, they sell magazines.
I don't really abide by their every word nor should anyone else.
I don't know, maybe I just prefer my shit to be in order.
It's a Jersey thing.
hmm ill have to look into it...
i agree i would much rather the dent not be there personally... ill have to look for some good pipe plugs while im getting my motor plugs to do my leak down test before firing this thing off.... :cool:
or see if i can get the gnarly bent into shape so it will fit..... :?

Posted: October 20th, 2010, 7:11 pm
by 2strokeforever
MXA claims to have run dyno tests back to back with new versus (intentionally) dented 2-stroke pipes. They claim that sometimes, the dent actually increased hp very slightly.
Their answer was that as long as the dents were 6 inches or more away from the cylinder, they wouldn't significantly affect performance.
ive never noticed power loss from a dent there, and the mxa tests looked legit, why would they dent 6 diffrent pipes and take pics, then make up some dyno #s?
i think the test was done on a 125sx so for the 500 its prolly the first 12 inches that matter most

Posted: October 20th, 2010, 7:48 pm
by plynn41
2strokeforever wrote: i think the test was done on a 125sx so for the 500 its prolly the first 12 inches that matter most
I can buy that... :wink:

Posted: October 20th, 2010, 8:20 pm
by qkenuf4u
2strokeforever wrote:
its prolly the first 12 inches that matter most
thats what she said.... :lol: :P

Posted: October 21st, 2010, 4:59 am
by Tharrell
Be sure to secure your plugs because they will shoot out with tremendous force.
You can get them on ebay or just build your own.
I can get you some pics of mine tomorrow or maybe someone else has some pics handy.

Posted: October 21st, 2010, 6:22 am
by qkenuf4u
Tharrell wrote:Be sure to secure your plugs because they will shoot out with tremendous force.
You can get them on ebay or just build your own.
I can get you some pics of mine tomorrow or maybe someone else has some pics handy.
hey
ya if ya got a pic handy that would be cool.... ill have to ask if my new boss has a mapp gas setup...