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can it be fixed

Posted: October 17th, 2010, 11:13 am
by hillclimbjim
had a rod break and it took a 1/2 x3/8 chunk out of the case where the crank fits in, should i try welding it or get a new one

Re: can it be fixed

Posted: October 17th, 2010, 1:31 pm
by qkenuf4u
hillclimbjim wrote:had a rod break and it took a 1/2 x3/8 chunk out of the case where the crank fits in, should i try welding it or get a new one
personally if i was still back home in PA. i wouldnt think twice about having the local welder guy weld it up.. he fixes all the coal truck beds and is a dirtbike rider himself .. has a huge shop and all the right tools.. he learned from his dad (R.I.P.) and knows his stuff..... really dont see why ya cant weld it up as long as the welder knows WTF hes doing...

Posted: October 17th, 2010, 2:25 pm
by Roostius_Maximus
if you dont have the ability to weld it or machine it back it can be a pain.

let me know what you need for it if you sell it :wink:

Posted: October 17th, 2010, 2:26 pm
by maddog1927
Post some pic's there are guys on here that will point you the right direction.

Posted: October 17th, 2010, 3:28 pm
by hillclimbjim
dont know how to post pics , dont look like its in to bad of a spot its up high

Posted: October 17th, 2010, 3:32 pm
by britincali
How the hell did you snap the rod?

Posted: October 17th, 2010, 3:35 pm
by MojoScojo
hillclimbjim wrote:dont know how to post pics , dont look like its in to bad of a spot its up high
http://www.bannedcr500riders.com/board/ ... hp?t=10024

Posted: October 17th, 2010, 3:37 pm
by hillclimbjim
not even 1 hour on motor, dont know what happened,made the whole hillclimb season with it 17 races, 4 times a race

Posted: October 17th, 2010, 3:38 pm
by britincali
You runnin nitrous?

Posted: October 17th, 2010, 4:19 pm
by hillclimbjim
no c12, 32.1, mabey a bad rod, it was oem

Posted: October 17th, 2010, 4:20 pm
by 100hp honda
13,000 rpm free rev when nitrous kicked in :lol:

Posted: October 17th, 2010, 4:44 pm
by hillclimbjim
4 bikes set up the same way with the same parts,all honda,

Posted: October 17th, 2010, 5:35 pm
by dubious01
I just bought a bottom end with broken rod... the big end broke. and the whole rod is missing... :shock:
it only scored the cases a little, guess this guy got lucky.

I think guys run them till the big end bearings fail, when they pile up it spreads the big end into an oval an then the big journal cracks open....

just a theory I have....

Posted: October 17th, 2010, 5:37 pm
by 100hp honda
probly defective i would guess. 3lb sand been through brits and rod held fine :lol:

Posted: October 17th, 2010, 5:40 pm
by dubious01
This one broke on the intake / compression stroke, the bottom cases aren't bad but the head and cylinder apparently were wortheless...

I never have carnage issues like that all the years I have ridden

Posted: October 17th, 2010, 6:28 pm
by seanmx57
I cracked a honda rod on the big end and I didn't have a ton of time on it either. Adam found the crack during inspection.

Posted: October 18th, 2010, 3:37 am
by gregrobo
we have repaired a cr 250 that holed the cases thru a dropped piston skirt needs to be a welder with some skills

Posted: October 18th, 2010, 7:24 am
by Roostius_Maximus
seanmx57 wrote:I cracked a honda rod on the big end and I didn't have a ton of time on it either. Adam found the crack during inspection.
its wierd, thats the only rod i've ever seen cracked too. stil have pictures somewhere.

Welding the cases is no big deal, its having the ability to properly machine them back to working.

I bought a 1987 case on ebay for .01$ + 5$ freight :lol:
i blasted it, welded it, got the boring bar in it and sized it, then surfaced .002" off it to make sure it was strait. Its running excellent, was the first engine in my AF, sold it to bro for his conversion after i put my ported engine in.

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Posted: October 18th, 2010, 8:11 am
by hillclimbjim
its almost in the same spot and size

Posted: October 18th, 2010, 2:59 pm
by south central hoon
i had a set of cases where a broken rod had gone right through the bottom and made a huge whole on both halves. welded it up and worked great. looked funny from the outside the weld was a perfect heart shape.

it can be done.

Posted: October 18th, 2010, 7:59 pm
by dannygraves
weld it :wink: