new mustang

[2strokeforever]

but atleast non of those tritons needed the tank dorpped for the pump

if youre smart the chevys dont need the tank dropped, you just need an grinder with a zip disc, cut 3/4 of a square and fold it back when youre done, 30 minutes max

[dannygraves]

but atleast non of those tritons needed the tank dorpped for the pump

if youre smart the chevys dont need the tank dropped, you just need an grinder with a zip disc, cut 3/4 of a square and fold it back when youre done, 30 minutes max

LOL, did that in my mother in laws jimmy, under the driver side back seat, I cut out a square, then used rivets and sheet metal from work to close it up. Wouldn't do that on a pickup though.

[dannygraves]

the 6.0 and the 6.4 were garbage, and Navistar wouldnt stand behind them. not to say that those motors didnt run good....they ran real good.....when they ran.

they ought to revamp the 7.3 and bring it back......goddamn bulletproof.

Navistar and Ford didn't see eye to eye on warranty, ford was replacing motors in trucks that were running big tunes and had run a loong time on blown gaskets, navistar didn't want to foot the bill. Navistar also raised the price on the 6.4 and ford refused to pay. Ford then took the plans for the small 4.4 diesel which was destined for the f150 that navistar designed and decided to build it themselves. It is now being made by ford and being put in land rovers until their billion dollar suit is resolved.
as far as the 6.4 it is a complete redesign and doesn't include any of the problematic peices, also a whole new block, crank, pistons, heads, everything is completely redisigned, its like comparing an ls1 to a old school SBC, might be similar in design, but a completely different motor.
here is some edumication for you.


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[Travis]

I know a guy that changed his so often he put a hinge in the bed on that little cut out door and a latch. So he could quickly change it again. Kept one with him at all times. lol

[dannygraves]

I know a guy that changed his so often he put a hinge in the bed on that little cut out door and a latch. So he could quickly change it again. Kept one with him at all times. lol

That sucks when a decent one is over $300

[100hp honda]

seems like ford went down hill after '79 . them old years were the bomb and still pull alot of cash if there in good shape. theres a dude up here put a 12valve cummins in a '76 f250. only 2wd but still badass. see if i cant get pics if i see him around.

[AlisoBob]

... only 2wd but still badass.

Does he use it to spin donuts in vacant lots while he videos himself?

[100hp honda]

badass one in phoenix. seen them still going for 4k-10k depending if its good original condition.

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/1904180422.html
http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/1928310151.html

[M.F.D.B.]

Nothing to do with the desert but it is heat that kills them

LOL Desert=Greater Heat than most of the world...

No gas = pumps running in air = heat = quick dead chevy pump.

If you are pumping air your car is out of gas, its running low on fuel all the time that kills pumps. The fuel actually cools the pump. Since your pressure regulator routs unused fuel back to the tank, this pumping action causes "adiabatic heating" of the fuel. So your pump basically heats up your fuel tank, the less fuel in the tank the hotter it gets. This is especially bad for Diesel trucks and why many (including mine) come stock with a fuel cooler.

[M.F.D.B.]

I know a guy that changed his so often he put a hinge in the bed on that little cut out door and a latch. So he could quickly change it again. Kept one with him at all times. lol

It would be a lot cheaper to just keep more fuel in the tank instead of running on empty all the time and burning out pump after pump...

[2strokeforever]

britincali wrote:

No gas = pumps running in air = heat = quick dead chevy pump.

the pump can have the outside in air (not cooled by the fuel) and still run, because the pickup is lower than the pump, which is what brit meant, see pic

[britincali]

^

[2strokeforever]

someone show me how to properly quote things, i must be retarded

this pumping action causes "adiabatic heating" of the fuel. So your pump basically heats up your fuel tank, the less fuel in the tank the hotter it gets

i really doubt the fuel will get hot enough to burn the pump when submerged, im guessing the pump burns around 250-350f but i could be wrong

[britincali]

I should have posted "Low gas = pumps running in air = heat = quick dead chevy pump. "

[2strokeforever]

[M.F.D.B.]

Trust me, I know what the fuel pump setup looks like! BTW my Vette uses basically the same setup, I think the trucks may be more susceptible as their tanks may be more spread out and flatter meaning the pump comes out into the "air" sooner, just a guess. I never have burned a pump in my car.

But I did miss read what Britt typed, sorry!

[dannygraves]

My wife runs her car on fumes and has even run it completely out of gas a number of times... still the stock pump
All replacement GM pumps also come with replacement connectors with crimp on butt connectors, since the factory connector was also a problem.

[britincali]

My wife runs her car on fumes and has even run it completely out of gas a number of times... still the stock pump
.

Start shopping for a pump now 'cos you just jinxed yourself......

[AlisoBob]

My wife runs her car on fumes and has even run it completely out of gas a number of times... still the stock pump
.

Start shopping for a pump now 'cos you just jinxed yourself......

x 432,789

[M.F.D.B.]

Dont worry Danny, ill tow her home in my stock, measly 360hp 650ft/lb truck...

[dannygraves]

[Mad Dog]

Your such a tool.

You are the one name calling...

What's that got to do with anything. Truth is, the 70's was a dark time for Detroit. Just take a look at the tire shreading 165 HP Vette.

Basically everything, you drive around in that POS 4 banger Shitstang and ill drive that super unimpressive V8 Vette and lets see who gets more attention from Vagina, or is Vagina not your "thing"?

Oh I like Vagina alright, I just never needed a fancy car to get it.
I'm not going to defend the 4 cylinder Stang cause I never liked it.
I know a person who thought she was trading up to one (yup it's a girls car) when she got out of a REAL POS, the Chevy Vega.

That's what we got in good ole Cali.

The Repubilic of Kommiefornia is the most poorly run, Lib ruined, state in the union, Yup
move out or stop bitching... I like the weather

Detroit was lost and building underperforming cars across the board.

GM never put a 4 banger in any muscle car Ive ever seen. The 6 pack Camaro and Turbo T/A were the closest thing but they still looked like the V8 version at least.
No one will ever mistake the Mustang II for a muscle car.

This is when the Japs came in and well, we know what happened.

Ive seen a N/A Civic do nines, see if you can get that 4 banger "Cobra" in the 9's with no boost...
4 banger Cobra's were an embarressment.

You look foolish.

No shit? Thanks for pointing that out, I had no idea, I apologize...
Apology accepted.

You want to spout off stats about this and that with out any real world experience. Go drive a Camaro and then a Mustang and get back to us.

Uhh, I have, tons of both and Firebirds, GM FTW!! The baddest Rustystaing I have personal experience with was 900hp, BIIIIGG blower. Closest a F*RD has ever gotten to beating me in a drag race/top speed run. The fastest still was the Twin Turbo SS Camaro I didnt pass by him till close to 170mph, now thats smokin! Word is that car will go over 200mph so if the road was long enough he would have caught me eventually...
I was speaking about the new ones..

You tout the IRS vs. the solid axle, and then criticize the OHC, 4 valve for its' technology and praise the archaic OHV.

Correct, IRS smokes solid, you disagree?
In what application? They both have their place?
In a true sports car, IRS is preferred. In a high HP muscle car, a solid axle less problematic. Combined with a Watts link, can work very, very well.
However, as Danny will tell you, Ford has their stock 3 link working very good.
Criticize OHC? I LOVE OHC thats what makes my 450 smoke your archaic 500. The baddest Vette ever made was the ZR-1, qwad over head cam, 16 fuel injectors, that thing was bad ass, Lotus knew what they were doing! But look how expensive hopping that motor up is. The LS series motors are dirt dirt cheap by comparison to the OHC F*RD. So that tiny advantage the car has stock would easily be eclipsed as soon as the hop-ups started rolling in. Plus from a "tuner" standpoint, which motor would be easier to make fast programming wise? Put a cam, TB, MAF and a chip in the LS setup and then compare that cost to $$$ ratio to the F*RD...
So you agree Quad cams, 4 valves is better than OHV, 2 valve.

Your about as transparent as a politician trying to get reelected.

Im the least transparent person that ever walked the planet...
Uh....Yeh...

All the stats and mags don't mean spit.
The only thing that really matters is what floats your boat when you put the pedal to the metal.

We agree on something else? WEIRD!
We probably agree on more that you realize...

[M.F.D.B.]

Oh I like Vagina alright, I just never needed a fancy car to get it.

Hey, that makes 2 of us...

I was speaking about the new ones.. [/color]

So just because the newest versions of each car I have driven were mid 2000's my experience and opinion is void?

In what application? They both have their place?
In a true sports car, IRS is preferred. In a high HP muscle car, a solid axle less problematic. Combined with a Watts link, can work very, very well. However, as Danny will tell you, Ford has their stock 3 link working very good.

F*RD has a lot more to prove to me than Danny's opinion, since the skid pad data proves my point. And the F*RD is far from the hp numbers that mandate a solid axle, come on man...

So you agree Quad cams, 4 valves is better than OHV, 2 valve.

Yep, that was my point, better, at the cost of complexity and higher cost. Could you image for one sec if GM took that motor in the Camaro and put variable timing qwad cams on it? There would be MUCH more than a few 1/10th's of a second in the 1/4 difference...

Your about as transparent as a politician trying to get reelected.

Im the least transparent person that ever walked the planet...
Uh....Yeh...

Having a tough time with sarcasm eh? Ask anyone who knows me well, I tell it like it is and I dont sugar coat shit, in fact im also known for telling people "honest" things I prolly should keep to myself... Just ask Danny or my wifey...

We probably agree on more that you realize...

Your turn at sarcasm?

[dannygraves]

Having a tough time with sarcasm eh? Ask anyone who knows me well, I tell it like it is and I dont sugar coat shit, in fact im also known for telling people "honest" things I prolly should keep to myself... Just ask Danny or my wifey...

I will agree to this one, there have been many times where he should have kept his damn mouth shut I would call him anything but dishonest not his fault he is blinded by the bowties in his eyes

I love how far this thread has drifted based on personal opinions. I test drove a mustang and loved it, MFDB turned green when Jason suggested buying an explorer for Danielle. The blue oval leaves a bad taste in MFDBs mouth no matter how you slice it, much the same way I will never own a corvette because I do not want to be a "corvette owner" you know the type of dbag I'm talking about, waxes the car twice a week, does 55 on the freeway and turns around to look at the car every time he parks it. BTW, MFDB, I'm not calling you a typical vette owner, vettes just aren't for me, I can best relate a vette to a slut, totoally awesome for a good time, just don't want to bring it home

[M.F.D.B.]

I basically agree with everything you said...